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Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by dghlsakjg on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:04PM (#32098693)
He lives in Canada.

Canadians don't live in the same country as Americans.

Canadians don't have the same banks as Americans.

Canadians can do money transfers instantly between any bank using e-transfer.

He was talking about transferring money out of the Canadian network of banks to a foreign entity (guessing based on it being denominated in USD).

As a European can you transfer money to, say, Vietnam without using clunky 40 year old technology like wires?

Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by spaceman_2020 on Thursday July 14, 2022 @07:02PM (#32102417)
International crypto transactions will likely be heavily regulated soon enough - the money laundering risk is too high.

Not to mention that money send to a crypto wallet also needs to be cashed out locally, which takes both fees and time. And god forbid your crypto exchange goes bankrupt or decide to pause withdrawals

Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by Ekaros on Friday July 15, 2022 @01:54AM (#32105025)
And the fact you are not moving insured money, but monopol money... Fiat really have quite many upsides when used with banks.
Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by bcrl on Thursday July 14, 2022 @09:08PM (#32103413)
I live in Canada. I can send a wire transfer internationally in 5 minutes from my couch on my laptop without breaking as sweat. The 40 year old technology works fine from a website.
Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by peoplefromibiza on Friday July 15, 2022 @01:50PM (#32110904)
> As a European can you transfer money to, say, Vietnam without using clunky 40 year old technology like wires?

clunky like for a flat fee of less than 5 euros available in a few hours as real money, directly available without having to setup anything?

the need for a new payment system not based on available infrastructure or an evolution of it is marginal at best.

Trivia: there is a video of Bezos telling the story of some customer sending money to buy books in the early days of Amazon hidden inside a 3.5' floppy disk.

Once they received the floppy they retrieved the money and shipped the books.

True or not, most things don't need nearly instant money transfer to work and that's a feature.

Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by pcthrowaway on Friday July 15, 2022 @01:47AM (#32104978)
> Canadians can do money transfers instantly between any bank using e-transfer.

Interesting, for me e-transfers usually take around 20-30 minutes to go through (where the other party receives the notification with the ability to deposit it).

I prefer using cryptocurrency for near-instant transfers for exactly this reason. When I've gone to pay for items via e-transfer there's a lot of waiting around for the other party to receive it (and ATMs generally limit your daily withdrawal amount, so for me, withdrawing cash isn't a good solution for purchasing things over $1000)

Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by Commodore63 on Thursday July 14, 2022 @01:53PM (#32099339)
The settlement delay isn't there for technological reasons. People think they want instant! fast! until they lose their life savings because libertarian tech has no buffers.
Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by anony23 on Thursday July 14, 2022 @02:00PM (#32099408)
I thought the settlement delay was so that the banks can squeeze out 72 more hours of interest.
Re:Crypto Winter, or Crypto Ice Age? by imtringued on Friday July 15, 2022 @02:36AM (#32105284)
No it is there for netting and clearing.