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Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by azemetre on Thursday July 14, 2022 @09:21AM (#32095742)
What about this story that the thread is discussing? The woman in question did not appreciate being filmed, is this still an example of kindness? Not trying to argue here just understanding your thought process, because I agree with the poster you replied to.
Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by bumby on Thursday July 14, 2022 @09:58AM (#32096183)
I think the distinction comes from differing worldviews on moral behavior.

Consequentialists believe all that matters is the "ends". So even if I filmed something with the aim of patting myself on the back but it made people feel good, it's moral because the outcome was positive.

Others believe all that matters is intent. A good Samaritan may act recklessly and end up maiming somebody, but they acted morally because they had positive intent to offer aid.

(Of course, there's many other takes but those seem to be the one's germane to this part of the discussion).

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by ncallaway on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:24AM (#32097205)
I’ve really come to think of my moral framework as trying to maintain an Aristotle golden mean between Consequentialism and Deontology.

Both outcome and intent matter, and the tricky question is how to balance the two.

I don’t have a strong philosophical argument to justify the balance I aim to strike in daily life, but it definitely feels like both consequentialism and deontology fall down when left totally to their own devices.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by bumby on Thursday July 14, 2022 @11:28AM (#32097277)
>the tricky question is how to balance the two.

I've heard people smarter than me advocate contractualism as a way of finding balance between the two.

Re:Woman ‘dehumanised’ by viral TikTok filmed without her co... by sixothree on Thursday July 14, 2022 @09:57AM (#32096159)
Agreed. I don't see any kindness in this video at all.