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Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by ejanus on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:58AM (#32025017)
No security chaps there? Are they incompetent? I admired Abe... Goodnight!
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by Hammershaft on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:58AM (#32025493)
Violent crime is generally very rare in Japan, but particularly gun violence is near nonexistent. There have been years in recent history where firearm offenses number in the single digits.

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/07/a-...

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by extheat on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:09AM (#32025092)
He had security. The guy got apprehended immediately after. Clearly they weren’t trained to deal with guns and/or were incompetent to not be aware of their surroundings.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by jesterson on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:56AM (#32025460)
Nobody even moved after first shot, they were frozen in astonishment. Not something you expect from guys protecting retired yet powerful ex-PM and party leader.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by swarnie on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:05AM (#32025054)
Different culture maybe?

Shootings are pretty rare in the developed world.

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by ahmadmijot on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:11AM (#32025104)
Yeah. They can casually campaign at the corner of a train station or on the truck with very lax security concern.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by ejanus on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:07AM (#32025066)
As in US?
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by hans1729 on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:12AM (#32025120)
The US manages to be the reigning empire and a failed state at the same time. Internationally, it's the empire, internally, it's failed beyond repair.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by jessaustin on Friday July 08, 2022 @08:20AM (#32026251)
There's no contradiction there. Voters would not submit to the horrors we perpetrate around the world, were we not subject to constant fear- and hate-mongering from corporate media. The horrors we perpetrate on ourselves are sort of a ricochet, because isolated desperate males are subject to the same media gaslighting as voters are, and they simply cut out the intended side-effect of further enrichment for Raytheon.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by noslenwerdna on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:25AM (#32025213)
Hyperbole much?
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by piva00 on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:39AM (#32025322)
Might sound like hyperbole but it isn't entirely untrue depending on what you believe should be the State role in supporting its society. The US is just really weird when looking through the lens of other Western developed countries...

And I say that coming from a society that's completely influenced by the American Way Of Life™ (Brazil), visiting the US multiple times and then moving to Sweden has really opened my eyes on how damn bizarre the US can be. It's more similar to Brazilian society (conservatism, sexism, violence, car-centric, so on and so forth) than to any other peer country to the US.

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by egeozcan on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:50AM (#32025408)
I immigrated to Germany from Turkey and I witness through the media that sometimes people in some parts of the US behave very similar to the ones in Istanbul, with all the bad and good things associated with it.

I've grown up being exposed to the American culture that's sold everywhere else, but after the weird events in politics I started paying more attention and it's disappointing me.

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by peyton on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:54AM (#32025948)
State failure means loss of control over territory. Not conservatism or violence or car-centricity. It’s completely untrue to say the US is a failed state.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by piva00 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @06:35PM (#32039971)
Not necessarily, for example from Wikipedia:

> A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly.

Depending on the philosophy you believe on what should be the role of the State the US has traces of failing on basic conditions and responsibilities to its citizens.

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by Spooky23 on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:25AM (#32025683)
One of the major parties has candidates actively campaigning on a platform to have state legislatures intervene in elections.

If that’s not a sign of decline, what is?

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by JackFr on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:53AM (#32025939)
It’s a sign of a poor understanding of both history and federalism.

Historically states have always controlled the election process. The amendment for direct election of senators, and changes necessitated during Reconstruction and 20th century Civil Rights legislation are the exception not the rule.

States are not administrative districts of the Federal government. They are political entities which in many cases preceded the Federal. government.

That one party has support more broadly across states while the others support is more concentrated explains that one would more vigorously assert federalist tendencies.

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by Spooky23 on Saturday July 09, 2022 @01:26PM (#32037314)
Historically states abused all of these powers. The Senate was a national disgrace even more so than by modern standards, fully dominated by machine political power brokers and regressive politics.

When that era was ended, the states systematically abused that power to exclude black and Latino voters. In some places that extended to Catholics and Jewish communities.

The play on nostalgia and ancient precedent is nothing more than a vacuous and flimsy veneer on supporting discrimination and exclusion. Reactionaries are always talking a big game about high and mighty principles, but delivering the same old machine politics in a new skin.

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by Aaargh20318 on Friday July 08, 2022 @08:05AM (#32026061)
It doesn't look like it from up close because it happens over decades, but if you take a step back it's actually happening frighteningly fast. The decline and fall of the Roman empire took about 250 years. With the way things are going in the US it'll be done in less than a hundred.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by chrisco255 on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:38AM (#32025807)
Nothing a little duct tape can't fix.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by blackoil on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:52AM (#32025429)
I see US as a rich and powerful nation but not a developed one, along with Saudi, Qatar etc.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by thret on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:12AM (#32025118)
No, the developed world.
Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by usrn on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:45AM (#32025372)
Actually yes. There are parts of the US that behave like the developed world with gun crime rates comparable to commonwealth countries and Western Europe. The parts with high gun crime rates are full of people who for whatever reason can't handle guns. Usually guns are illegal in these parts of the country to try to help them, although it doesn't really work.

EDIT: Yes, there is actually a slight negative correlation between gun ownership and gun violence by state if you run the data (rather than just eyeballing it.) Gun violence highly correlates with a different trait in the population.

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by rsfern on Friday July 08, 2022 @07:33AM (#32025761)
I don’t think your assertion about locality of gun crime and gun laws in the US is consistent with the data. (Not trying to make an assertion as to whether such laws are effective here)

Sort state level data by gun murder rate, it’s not so clear cut: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_S...

States like Louisiana and South Carolina have the highest rates. Maryland is a state with high rates and also more stringent gun laws, but New York and California are pretty far down the list

Re:Former PM Abe Shinzo dies after being shot by escapecharacter on Friday July 08, 2022 @06:09AM (#32025091)
the US doesn't count