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Re:Starlink Maritime by dr_dshiv on Thursday July 07, 2022 @05:49PM (#32019946)
Inverse square law issues?

Naively, cost+speed+coverage=value?

Re:Starlink Maritime by roflyear on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:26PM (#32020383)
Mostly it's "Elon likes to promise things that he may not be able to do" issue
Re:Starlink Maritime by Mo3 on Thursday July 07, 2022 @06:30PM (#32020415)
Depending on how this is priced this is still an extremely viable option for a good chunk of the maritime industry, even if coverage is limited to ports and national waters.
Re:Starlink Maritime by wumpus on Thursday July 07, 2022 @09:00PM (#32021737)
The best part about the "Elon is a liar" meme is that you can use it on successful, on-time products, too. Very powerful:

"Tesla production up 87% year-on-year!"

"But what about Cybertruck, Roadster, and Semi? Fail."

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Re:Starlink Maritime by bobsmooth on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:24AM (#32023134)
There's a difference between someone that promises the world and never delivers and someone that promises the world and occasionally delivers.
Re:Starlink Maritime by wpietri on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:28PM (#32036653)
I don't think I said there wasn't a difference. There are always differences.

But I do stand by my point that you can't put much stock in Musk's claims. Which, now that people are becoming more aware of it, makes him less and less likely to deliver anything major again.

As an example, take a look at his failed purchase of Twitter. He wasted a ton of his time and caused a lot of damage to Twitter, its employees, and his own reputation. You can bet that any future business partners, even the ones willing to ignore his behavior on Twitter, are going to take it as a cautionary tale.

Re:Starlink Maritime by HWR_14 on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:53AM (#32023368)
Why? In both cases, what they say is meaningless.
Re:Starlink Maritime by bobsmooth on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:59AM (#32023399)
In the latter case, there is precedent. Elon promised to revolutionize space travel, he's done so. He promised to revolutionize electric cars, he's done so. He promised to revolutionize intercity traffic, that didn't pan out. Clearly you can see the difference between him and someone that's never delivered on what they promised.
Re:Starlink Maritime by wumpus on Friday July 08, 2022 @01:21AM (#32023579)
I figure that any investor who complains about 87% annual growth gets what they deserve.
Re:Starlink Maritime by wumpus on Friday July 08, 2022 @12:52AM (#32023366)
> Your theory is that we can only call somebody a liar if 100% of their statements turn out to be false?

No, but thanks for twisting my words.

Re:Starlink Maritime by wumpus on Friday July 08, 2022 @05:59PM (#32027937)
Fun that comment that twisted my words is "flagged, dead", but my complaint about having my words twisted is downvoted.
Re:Starlink Maritime by wpietri on Saturday July 09, 2022 @12:30PM (#32036689)
That was my best interpretation of your point. If you'd like to clarify it, I'm still here.