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> you go down hard (unlike ghislaine maxwell)

What do you mean? I haven't been following that case, but it looks like she got a 20 year prison sentence, which I would consider "going down hard."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghislaine_Maxwell#Conviction

I don't really have an opinion but was curious. Official stats from 2018 [1] tell me the average sentencing for sexual abuse was 191 months (15 years, 11 months).

Her sentencing is 25.6% longer than the U.S. mean for sexual abuse in 2018. I'm not familiar with the standard deviation for this stat (it could be a 3 sigma event for all I know).

I still don't have an opinion, but it's a good stat to know.

[1] https://www.ussc.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/research-and-pu...

But has she committed an average crime? Seems she did it in an industrial scale, whereas most offenders probably weren't.

I'm definitely not suggesting her crime was average, rather I was curious to understand how her sentence fits into the statistical distribution of sexual abuse sentences. Because I had no idea whether 20 is crazy high, bang average, crazy low.

Unfortunately, without having the standard deviation of the distribution, it's difficult to draw strong conclusions from these data points. All we can really say is that she received a 25.6%-higher-than-average sentence.

25.6% above the mean could be an "industrial scale" number of standard deviations above the mean, we have no idea.

Knowing HN, I hope it's only a matter of time before someone computes it for us!

Do those statistics include trafficking? I don't see it mentioned in the PDF but maybe it's included in the other category.

Definitely hard 20. Just like Phil Leotardo, I hope she can compromise and spend the 20 years without a peep.

Plus Ghislaine and Epstein were also messing with political insiders.

> (unlike ghislaine maxwell)

The woman who was sentenced to 20 years in federal prison?

She's going to be 80 when she gets out of prison.

I think you mean Ghislaine Maxwell's clients. Those guys are all too big to jail.