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Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by Semaphor on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:12AM (#31996626)
I wonder what the explanations are for 18, most people killed the robots. Assumption of backups? Or caring about your own species more?
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by robbomacrae on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:57AM (#31996889)
Chickens are sentient. Would you have changed your answer if it were chickens?

I chose to save the human as the prompt didn't set a bar for the level of sentience. Also partly because of shameless speciesism. I love animals, have gone mostly vegetarian, but I would still save a human over any other animal.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by yardstick on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:24AM (#31997024)
Would you save a fit, healthy monkey that can communicate with us using sign language, or would you save a human in a permanent coma? (Or whose brain is damaged and will only ever have the mind of a 1 year old)
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by robbomacrae on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @02:11PM (#32004689)
I would choose the human in both situations.

Lots of animals die due to our existence and not just for our food. We accidentally kill things all the time with our vehicles and the pollution we cause. I wish it wasn't the case but you can't step outside without ruining some ants day.

To then be faced with a choice between killing one more animal or a human... my heart would bleed for the monkey but to do anything else would be murder and pretty hypocritical unless one lives an extremely vegan and eco friendly lifestyle.

No medical issue will strip away the fact that it is a human life. I'll make it more absurd for you... they could have a terminal disease and likely be dead tomorrow and I'd still choose to sacrifice the monkey to give them 24 more hours.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by spoonjim on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @03:16AM (#31997790)
Wouldn't sacrifice any humans for a billion monkeys
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by McBeige on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @06:53AM (#31999165)
If you were a monkey, would you sacrifice a billion humans to save a monkey?

Or equivalently, would you sacrifice a billion humans to save a robot that's twice as sentient as the average human?

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by spoonjim on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:41PM (#32004278)
I cannot really say what I would do if I was a monkey, it's like asking me what a circle with corners would look like. Too far outside my ability to imagine. I wouldn't sacrifice any number of humans to save any kind of robot either, unless it was a robot critical to human survival like a surgical robot in the middle of a natural disaster.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by yardstick on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @03:29AM (#31997870)
Would you save a monkey whose body contains antibodies for the cure for cancer for humans (or AIDS/HIV/whatever), or 1 human?
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by spoonjim on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:41PM (#32004285)
The monkey. The answer would be the same for just a vial of the antibodies, the monkey is completely incidental.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by bckr on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:43AM (#31997151)
coma: monkey

brain damage: now there's a hard one

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by Semaphor on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:09AM (#31996941)
> I chose to save the human as the prompt didn't set a bar for the level of sentience.

That’s actually a very good point, I made more assumptions than the text gave cause for.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by robocat on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:41AM (#31996811)
The robots don’t look to be tied down. Neither does the cat.

Why the robots choose to get involved with murderous trams is another question…

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by undersuit on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:05AM (#31996926)
Robots might not even die when you run them over just needs some new parts.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by yellowapple on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:19AM (#31996986)
I chose to spare the robots. Not for kind reasons, mind you, but rather because I did a "maximize human death and suffering" run (and it's fascinating that the minimum percentage of agreement throughout said run was 10%).
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by yardstick on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:21AM (#31996998)
I saved the robots, last thing I want is their sentient robot friends and family going on a rampage to destroy all humans because we didn’t care about them enough.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by 22c on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:27AM (#31996712)
To really be sure, I think you need to test for the switched case as well. ie. would you do nothing and kill a human or switch and kill sentient robot.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by Ekaros on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:48AM (#31997193)
Problem with this is that pulling the lever is an action. Which I actively choose not to take, but to save my self. Or to kill a cat to make a point.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by latency-guy on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @02:03AM (#31997295)
I strictly don't believe in sentience being possible for robots. I think robots can and may eventually pass the Turing test to a meaningful degree - but only on the end of imitating/fooling us.

So this question is more like would I like to destroy a couple of expensive robots or kill someone. I chose to 'kill' the robots. Some might see this as cheating or not in the spirit of the question being asked - for me, I can't and will never concede 'programmable sentience' as any sort of reality.

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by tyrantalope on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:00AM (#31996903)
I don't value them equally as human life. I'm anti robot I guess
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by Sirened on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @02:20AM (#31997401)
Yep, it's essentially the same question as the cat vs the lobsters. Most chose to save the cat, and that's not exactly surprising given the western context of cats as companion animals. We just value some lives more than others.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by brewdad on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @02:02AM (#31997287)
If we kill all the robots, they can never become our overlords. Right?

Right?

Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by tedunangst on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:37AM (#31996776)
I don't think the chatbots are actually sentient.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by Semaphor on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:39AM (#31996794)
It said sentient, though.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by tedunangst on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:10AM (#31996948)
Yeah, I've heard that before.
Re:Absurd Trolley Problems by pcthrowaway on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @01:40AM (#31997133)
OK google