Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by krageon on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @08:59AM
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There's no need to be apologist to a megacorp that does stupid things. They're going to continue even if you don't make excuses for them.
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Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by fartcannon on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @10:40AM
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It's amazing, eh, how people will actively defend a company like Microsoft as if they're friends. They think it's fair to treat them with the same level of forgiveness and fairness you'd treat a colleague. Corporations behave like a hungry psychotic animal, simply because of the number of people in them and the incentive structure. The bigger, the crazier. Our colleagues and peers deserve the benefit of doubt. Microsoft deserves a leash.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by TheRealDunkirk on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:15AM
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Indeed. I'm all in with Apple, but I ran Linux on the desktop for 19 years, and ran my own infra out of my house. I keep close tabs on Apple. It was a lot of work, but if they renege on their current "privacy" stance, I have an escape path.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by charcircuit on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @02:35PM
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Many of us have colleagues and peers who work at Microsoft and many of us have experienced something similar where our company gets hated on based off misinformation / not having the complete story which we often can't provide because of NDAs.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by fartcannon on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @04:33PM
(#31993327)
They've admitted to gaming Hackernews in the past. Nothing is sacred to them. Their 45 plus year reputation as a shitty company is their own fault. Your friends don't need to work for Microsoft. They made their choice.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by beeboop on Thursday July 07, 2022 @12:22AM
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I hate capitalism as much as the next far left person but sometimes too much malice can be attributed to corporate actions when it's actually just stupid bureaucratic bullshit
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by krageon on Thursday July 07, 2022 @04:48AM
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We recognise that in people the internal state is fundamentally unknowable. That is why we judge them first on what they do and second on why they did it (if we can figure it out at all). Corporations are often judged the other way around when the actual internal processes that happened are just as unknowable. Know them through their actions, this is how you figure out whether or not they are bad.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by mikestew on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @10:38AM
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"Apologist to a megacorp", either argue your case against or hold the veiled insults. Parent made a reasonable argument to give an alternate explanation, perhaps you can, too.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by ReactiveJelly on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @09:03AM
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There's a difference between apologetics and explaining
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by fartcannon on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @10:41AM
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To explain, you'd need to know the truth, which you don't. So you're just assuming they're innocent when history has proven time and time again that Microsoft is an active troll/bad actor.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by dspillett on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:46AM
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> To explain, you'd need to know the truth
Unless you have some imagination, in which case you can explain a hypothetical or a possible truth.
> So you're just assuming they're innocent
The post you are responding to does not really suggest innocence overall, just perhaps they are guilty of something else (laziness or incompetence) in this instance and perhaps that they are covering that up.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by throwaway894345 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:05PM
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I don't have a dog in this fight (the only MS thing in my life is my xbox, everything else is Apple/Google/Amazon/OSS), but can we dispense with the low-effort flame bait posts?
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by kyriakos on Wednesday July 06, 2022 @12:25AM
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Similarly you are assuming that they are is an evil intend behind these issues without information. We truly can't know why (unless someone in Microsoft runs an investigation) but we can think of potential reasons.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by josefx on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:02AM
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The language used is positive. For example instead of "good business decision" one could say more neutrally "maximally lazy, standard breaking and anti competitive". In the context of mega corps it means the same but doesn't try to present it in a positive light.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by ask_b123 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:11AM
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That is not more neutral. Perhaps it is as neutral, but in the opposite side of the neutrality spectrum.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by omniglottal on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:18PM
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A neutrality "spectrum" does not have sides any more than the autism spectrum has "100% neurotypical".
Imagine a gearbox - neutrality is a Boolean, either in gear or definitively not.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by throwaway894345 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @09:42AM
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Lol the parent ruined the outrage party, but he’s likely correct. I’ve worked at companies that did the same thing and they weren’t “stupid megacorps”.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by josefx on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @10:48AM
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> I’ve worked at companies that did the same thing
The companies you worked for published their own browsers?
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by throwaway894345 on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:02PM
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I'm not sure where exactly you're going with this. I can imagine several possible arguments that someone might make based on this observation, but all of them are pretty obviously poor so I won't impute them upon you.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by mikestew on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:38PM
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That was some damned fine word smithing to diplomatically state what savages like myself would have just mangled into less flattering prose. <golf clap>
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by smoldesu on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @11:04AM
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"Apologism for a megacorporation" should be the subtitle to HN, emblazoned in big neon lights under the Y-Combinator logo.
Re:Xbox Cloud throttles performance if user agent is Linux
by evilduck on Tuesday July 05, 2022 @01:35PM
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User A: "They intentionally sabotage Firefox" ... no evidence of this behavior
User B: "What if it's just them being cheap or incompetent?"... no evidence of this behavior either
Asshole take: "You MS Apologist! Quit making excuses for them" ... no evidence of this behavior either