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Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by Closi on Friday July 01, 2022 @11:46AM (#31948070)
Great that they have gone open-source, but whatever this project is, their github page and their website are some of the worst I have ever seen from a communications perspective!

I have absolutely no clue what on earth a browser for programmers is and why it would help me to 'think clearly'.

Contrast to Firefox and Chrome websites - both of which have a screenshot on their landing page.

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by ss48 on Friday July 01, 2022 @11:53AM (#31948218)
This was a video walkthrough of the browser from a while back. I agree the communication on the github and website page need to improve a lot.

https://www.loom.com/share/93c7c0012f514c37b58a42fa65badc88

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28446147

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by bongobingo1 on Friday July 01, 2022 @01:15PM (#31949569)
What the dickens, this looks great. Grouping by domain is a great idea along with the workspaces.
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by capableweb on Friday July 01, 2022 @02:37PM (#31950827)
> Grouping by domain

I basically do this already with Firefox and TreeStyleTabs (but ad-hoc). Any middle mouse/ctrl+click I do on a link, opens in a new tab nested under the current one. So all HN stuff is under one tab that is collapsed, all GitHub stuff is under one and so one. Really effective when you do research, as you can do the initial search on Google, then every result you open goes under the existing tab, which is conveniently labeled via the <title> tag on the Google page.

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by ss48 on Friday July 01, 2022 @06:24PM (#31953794)
That's been one of my favorite features in Safari: sorting tabs by website.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-to-organize-tabs-in-safa...

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by m12k on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:14PM (#31948615)
That actually look pretty neat - I've wanted for a while now for my browser to be more "research" oriented, with ways of grouping all those related tabs that are all trying to answer the same question, or represent the same line of inquery.
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by scoopertrooper on Friday July 01, 2022 @12:30PM (#31948900)
Trying to workout how this relates to the core product of this startup (3D game UX analytics).
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by nequo on Friday July 01, 2022 @01:11PM (#31949526)
Maybe it was their internal tooling?
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by scoopertrooper on Friday July 01, 2022 @02:18PM (#31950531)
Presumably, but it seems most of the work in to improving the productivity of certain web browsing workflows.

It may help improve some tasks, but not exactly core product stuff.

If my capital were on the line, I’d be pretty annoyed seeing it spent that way.

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by azeirah on Friday July 01, 2022 @05:59PM (#31953562)
They're just two dudes trying out stuff.
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by Tao3300 on Saturday July 02, 2022 @12:20AM (#31956204)
> If my capital were on the line, I’d be pretty annoyed seeing it spent that way.

I think you'll find you get a lot of mileage out of taking those particular glasses off from time to time.

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by hinkley on Friday July 01, 2022 @03:38PM (#31951639)
I was privy to a conversation a couple years ago that got out of control, shortly after our peacekeeper left the team, and I was feeling a little too much in agreement with one of the participants A to step in and shut it down even though he was winding B up something fierce.

The apex of the argument came down to documentation quality, and at first I thought this conversation was over and A won a bunch of points. I forgot about it for almost a year and then it came back into my brain, moved into the upstairs room, and has been trying not to pay rent ever since. And this is what is playing in a loop in my head:

    What if your documentation isn't shit because you are bad at explaining things.
    What if your documentation is shit because you're bad at writing code that can be explained?
I was really excited about this thread until I read your reply. And now all I can think is 'why is their documentation bad?' prejudging it before even looking at it.
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by shoo on Friday July 01, 2022 @06:22PM (#31953778)
Another place this pops up is documentation for processes in a business -- this could be a process for onboarding or compliance rituals or (hopefully not) deployment. Perhaps a business group has a process that is taught to new individuals who join the group through shadowing or song or dance, it is part of the folklore and rich and vibrant spoken cultural tradition of the group, but has never been written down. Then someone attempts to document it, and the result is confusing.

What if the process documentation isn't confusing and stupid because the author is bad at explaining things - what if the process documentation is stupid because the process is stupid and needs to be changed.

Another approach to this kind of thing is to reverse the sequence of "do it", "document it" steps and draft a rough version of the documentation up-front as part of an initial design, while it is cheaper to change the process or system, before work is done to implement it and roll it out.

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by hinkley on Friday July 01, 2022 @07:22PM (#31954328)
I sat with two teams that had SEI process forced on them, and both of them had their sabres out before the proponent even opened their mouth.

Both groups fell into child-like glee when it was explained to them that SEI level 1 involves writing down your current process as it actually exists. Which meant they got to describe the dumb stuff they'd been putting up with for years, with various degrees of tongue-in-cheek humor, satire, and sarcasm.

- Send boss email

- wait 2 hours for reply

- bug boss about email

- find out IT Guy already left for the day

- Resume process in the morning

Things like that, and a good time was had by all.

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by shoo on Friday July 01, 2022 @07:56PM (#31954577)
In regulated environments there are potential disadvantages to documenting the current adhoc process in all its glorious confusion -- we may be audited to see if how the group operates in practice adheres to the letter of the documented process. If the culture is particularly compliance-oriented, then perhaps we end up "I'm sorry, to comply with our documented process, we can't proceed to step 5 until after the IT guy has returned to work. Since he's still at work today we'd better pause until he clocks off then returns tomorrow".
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by atom_arranger on Saturday July 02, 2022 @02:17AM (#31956719)
What you talk about last is referred to as documentation driven development or readme driven development

I think it's great for greenfield work. Forget existing solutions, if you were looking for a solution, write out how you'd ideally like it to work, after it's written, figure out if you can create something that works like that

Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by nescioquid on Friday July 01, 2022 @05:48PM (#31953451)
I like how you turn a phrase, though I fear some manner of contact-tracing is in order now. The next time I see bad documentation, I'll be thinking of your comment, wondering if it wasn't an aborted attempt at explaining the unexplainable.
Re:Bonsai Browser is now open source by Tao3300 on Saturday July 02, 2022 @12:24AM (#31956216)
This reinforces my notion that when there is no documentation, it's because no one has a clue what is going on.