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Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by Jerrrry on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @10:55AM (#31921052)
you will be downvoted for spouting facts.

Nobody wants to admit it, but:

The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They have greatly increased the life-expectancy of those of us who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world. The continued development of technology will worsen the situation. It will certainly subject human beings to greater indignities and inflict greater damage on the natural world, it will probably lead to greater social disruption and psychological suffering, and it may lead to increased physical suffering even in “advanced” countries.

Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by upupandup on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:05AM (#31921210)
Uncomfortable truths ruin immersion for those who feel like we've achieved a better society:

- incel culture

- gender competition and conflicts

- classicism

- equity over meritocracy

- normalization of pornography,, drugs, violence in liberal cities.

Yet the benefit to women is not equal. At the top, attractive women (can be achieved with ease again thanks to technology like breast augumentation, cosmetic surgery that dropped in prices) control market attention and convert their sexual capital into fiat and orgasms.

Similarly, benefit to men is not equal. At the top, wealthy and/or attractive men receive the attention of the most attractive class of women.

So we've achieved equality where some are far more "equal" than the rest but the benefit goes to a small proportion at the cost of others who do not get access to it and you can't really speak out because it's seen as "rocking the boat" when we are just citing facts.

It's a powder keg for a major social upheaval. Throughout history, concentration of young, single, unwed men in cities have produced volatility, especially when information now travels fast and far: ex) syria, arab spring and facebook.

Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by kelseyfrog on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:53AM (#31921920)
As much as some people like to claim that video games cause violence, I can't but help think of the billions of man-hours diverted into playing video games that would otherwise be expressed socially, politically, or violently. Video games represent a vast and unrecognized sink for masculine libidinal energy.
Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by pjc50 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @12:03PM (#31922057)
Historically, violence is at low levels: https://longnow.org/seminars/02012/oct/08/decline-violence/

> - classicism

What's wrong with studying ancient Rome?

Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by Jerrrry on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @09:31PM (#31927771)
I think Japan is a case study, as they are a little bit further down the "Fall of Rome" timeline, while also facing the population plateau.

They have combated it with a strong national identity, and cultural retention, but time will tell in the next decade how it ends up.

20 years down the line, the Western world, then Africa.

China and Islamic countries aren't having this issue, as their (opposite) approach seems to be working in the short term.

Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by NoGravitas on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @10:58AM (#31921090)
You are literally quoting the Unabomber here.
Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by imwillofficial on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:05AM (#31921197)
Sometimes the most insightful ideas comes from the most unexpected places.
Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by 55555 on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:16AM (#31921383)
I don't buy the argument; I think the world has gotten a lot better. But Ted Kaczynski was/is extremely smart, even if he was a domestic terrorist. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by Jerrrry on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @02:35PM (#31924033)
I think the argument is, that since the world improved so much, a lot of the social paradigms, customs, traditions that relied on and improved upon the human condition are left unsubstantiated, and the loss leads to social decay, that inevitably leads to societal decay.
Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by bombcar on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:17AM (#31921391)
I think that's the whole point/joke. It's a bit of a meme these days.
Re:Technology shock, fewer shotgun marriages, and the rise i... by helen___keller on Wednesday June 29, 2022 @11:01AM (#31921145)
Abject contrarianism is not the same as “spouting facts”

GP went on some kind of unprovoked and unjustified screed about Marxism

You’ve gone on some kind of unprovoked and unjustified screed about industrialism

If you want to write about these topics, put some more effort into justifying your arguments, and don’t do it on a thread about unwed births