I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar, but I haven't found it lazily googling.

Most academic CS and IT research in the US is defense-funded, has been all along. Most other countries too. So any reasonable academic home of a web-related entity is likely to have it's research budget be mostly defense funded.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Science_Foundation_...

Notably NCSA, which provided the first telnet client, web browser and web server that most people used prior to the DotCom boom.

I think we should absolutely do that. MIT's figure is going to be nowhere close to 60%.

https://web.mit.edu/fnl/vol/155/numbers_research_total.htm

> Most academic CS and IT research in the US is defense-funded, has been all along.

That also is false. It's nowhere close to "most" across all US CS and IT research.

Curious what the Department of Energy grants are about, and what overlap it ends up having with defense purposes if it's nuclear. That's the second biggest source of research funding at 15%. 18+15==33%, still not 60%.

> That also is false. It's nowhere close to "most" across all US CS and IT research.

I'd be curious to see numbers for that too, for MIT CS department(s) specifically, and in general in the US. I have definitely known a lot of CS professors and projects with DARPA and other DoD funding, it is quite common.

And maybe substantially more...

And here we have a $9.6 billion contract (albeit not for just one year, i'm sure) that wasn't included... it does seem like that earlier chart was not very comprehensive.

2020 numbers. DOD is 17%

Why is MIT? Do you not have an issue with them also getting funding from the American defense department? Or if you're concerned with the open web, do you not remember when they persecuted Aaron Swartz for the heinous crime of downloading knowledge?

Where did I do so? Please either provide a quote of me doing so, or retract your statement as it otherwise amounts to libel.

To clarify if somehow you managed to misinterpret my comments: I am in no way defending any $bad_shit that China does/has done, I am pointing out that the other nations involved have likewise done so, and therefore focusing on just one nation is disingenous because it gives all the others a pass.

The war on the free and open web has been waged just as much, if not more so, by Western powers as it has by Eastern ones.

You may not be very familiar with Hacker News. The parent issued an opinion about your behavior in commenting. Commanding them to retract it or else, isn't going to work here.

Hard to call oneself a standards community if you're missing representation from nearly a fifth of all users.