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Re:W3C to become a public-interest non-profit organization by adventured on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @12:49PM (#31910086)
> For comparison, can we look at what portion of MIT's research grants are Defense related? MIT being the US host.

I think we should absolutely do that. MIT's figure is going to be nowhere close to 60%.

https://web.mit.edu/fnl/vol/155/numbers_research_total.htm

> Most academic CS and IT research in the US is defense-funded, has been all along.

That also is false. It's nowhere close to "most" across all US CS and IT research.

Re:W3C to become a public-interest non-profit organization by jrochkind1 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @01:12PM (#31910353)
Thanks for the details. Department of Defence is listed at 18% MIT-wide, which is not close to 60%, true. It is the #1 source of research funds.

Curious what the Department of Energy grants are about, and what overlap it ends up having with defense purposes if it's nuclear. That's the second biggest source of research funding at 15%. 18+15==33%, still not 60%.

> That also is false. It's nowhere close to "most" across all US CS and IT research.

I'd be curious to see numbers for that too, for MIT CS department(s) specifically, and in general in the US. I have definitely known a lot of CS professors and projects with DARPA and other DoD funding, it is quite common.

Re:W3C to become a public-interest non-profit organization by seoaeu on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:00PM (#31910897)
“Campus” is subtle because it doesn’t count the roughly $1B of military funding that goes to Lincoln Lab, an MIT subsidiary
Re:W3C to become a public-interest non-profit organization by lelandfe on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:18PM (#31911114)
Re:W3C to become a public-interest non-profit organization by jrochkind1 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:45PM (#31911451)
Wow, the total amount of "research expenditures" "on campus" in the earlier chart was only $447 million.

And here we have a $9.6 billion contract (albeit not for just one year, i'm sure) that wasn't included... it does seem like that earlier chart was not very comprehensive.

Re:W3C to become a public-interest non-profit organization by jrochkind1 on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @02:10PM (#31911012)
ooh, good catch.
Re:W3C to become a public-interest non-profit organization by lelandfe on Tuesday June 28, 2022 @01:09PM (#31910324)