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Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by nightski on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @10:32AM (#31836490)
I really wish Google would just accept it's a dumb advertising company and forget about these moonshots. It's just to stroke the founders ego. They are big enough. Pay out a huge dividend or something.
Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by actuator on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @10:53AM (#31836776)
Completely disagree.

There is huge scope in healthcare for automation, pre-emptive diagnosis and raising the bar for precision.

It is mostly going to be done by a company with good AI chops, I would put my money on Google, from what I have heard about their efforts.

Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by nightski on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @10:55AM (#31836801)
Google often has terrible execution when it lies outside their direct core businesses. You are correct they have amazing engineering talent, but that is not the problem here.
Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by esotericimpl on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @10:59AM (#31836883)
The issue here is not "engineering talent" The current hodge podge of Health care apps, web sites and and insurance systems all work correctly.

The business logic is broken.

Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by zasdffaa on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @10:58AM (#31836856)
Which is entirely orthogonal from how they might (ab)use that data. They are a commercial company. It will be commercialised. No. Not ok by me.
Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by actuator on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:45AM (#31837568)
Healthcare in US is run by commercial companies only. The diagnosis machines are made my commerical companies only.

I am not sure what you mean by commercialised.

Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by zasdffaa on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:50AM (#31837643)
Was speaking as a brit where this hasn't happened to the extent in the US.

What it means is I was one step behind :)

Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by actuator on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @12:05PM (#31837851)
NHS is struggling with wait times and staff shortages, no? I have heard a lot of them is in radiology departments. These diagnostic improvements will help there as well, and for a state funded healthcare like NHS, more automation is good.

As much as I don't like for profit companies monetising this, I am not sure if I know of a better path to innovation.

Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by avgDev on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:04AM (#31836943)
I've been thinking how to enter the medical space with software.

My cousin has EDS, diagnosing the illness is pretty trivial. It took her 15+ years and when she was diagnosed she was already in severe decline. She could have been diagnosed a decade ago but some doctors just have no interest in googling symptoms and listening to patients.

Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by actuator on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:50AM (#31837638)
I am so sorry to hear about her but this is the exact reason why I am hopeful with companies like Google entering this space and making diagnosis better.

We have so many smart devices that can record so much data, and it doesn't even have to be auto recording. If you had a headache, if you can mark that and over time based on a pattern it can recommend you to see a specialist or get some tests done.

Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by speedylight on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:26AM (#31837288)
Google may make shitty business decisions for their customers, but their technical innovations is nothing to laugh at. I mean AlphaFold alone killed off entire careers in the protein folding space just because of how good it was at predicting those structures.
Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by Taylor_OD on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @10:38AM (#31836571)
I know right? I wish they would just focus on making money instead of making products people might use and gain benefit from.
Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by sidcool on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:02AM (#31836918)
"dumb advertising company" is trivialising the amazing tech and products Google has. Google has very justified bad reputation around product shutdowns and privacy, but I don't think being dumb is one of them.
Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by nightski on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @11:13AM (#31837104)
I was not calling Google or its engineers dumb, that was not my intent. I am saying their success is attributed to dumb things, aka advertising. Google has a way of sucking in really smart people to work on potentially great things that end up solely existing to feed the dumb advertising machine and heavily exploiting their users in the process. It's really quite evil.
Re:Alphabet is spending billions to become a force in health... by pmoriarty on Wednesday June 22, 2022 @10:40AM (#31836605)
I wish it would just go out of business entirely, but I'm afraid Google doesn't care what either of us wishes.