Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman

Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by donohoe on Monday October 31, 2011 @03:29PM (#3178630)

Did you know he invented RSS, and its the most relevant thing on the web today?

You'd never guess.

I met Dave a few times back when I was with the tImes though I doubt he remembers me. He's nice enough in person but he has his own personal reality distortion field.

I had to stop following him in Google Reader and Twitter to stay sane.

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by wyclif on Monday October 31, 2011 @03:33PM (#3178653)

That "I invented RSS" line is utter bullshit of the highest order. Ramanathan V. Guha and Dan Libby of Netscape created it back in 1999. Do not pass go, do not drink the Kool-aid.

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by guan on Tuesday November 01, 2011 @09:09PM (#3184916)

Dave Winer would agree with you:

November 2010: http://scripting.com/stories/2010/11/11/didYouInventRss.html January 2007: http://scripting.com/scripting2/davewiner/2007/01/02/rssWasn...

Here’s one characterization by someone else that he seems to approve of:

“[RSS] grew out of a good idea in 1997 from the software company Userland that got picked up and melded with one of Netscape's similar ideas.”

http://scripting.com/2003/04/14.html#lff229a9a0dde77eb6e47c1...

While you might still think that Dan Libby deserves more credit than Winer, this is a far cry from claiming that he invented RSS.

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by wmf on Monday October 31, 2011 @03:42PM (#3178690)

Of course, Netscape's initial version of RSS sucked and didn't get much traction until Winer got involved. The history of RSS isn't a simple thing.

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by wyclif on Monday October 31, 2011 @03:47PM (#3178722)

Except I wasn't talking about traction or the simplicity of history, but the assertion that Winer "invented" RSS, which is patently false.

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by jacob_riis on Monday October 31, 2011 @08:38PM (#3179907)

Citation?

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by BrandonM on Monday October 31, 2011 @03:51PM (#3178735)

I'm pretty sure donohoe was being sarcastic. Maybe someday we'll learn that sarcasm is rarely an insightful addition to a discussion.

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by donohoe on Monday October 31, 2011 @04:46PM (#3178960)

Yes, I was being sarcastic in the first instance. I'm Irish, without sarcasm I'd have nothing.

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Re:Dave Winer: Why I stand up for Stallman by joshu on Monday October 31, 2011 @03:44PM (#3178701)

btw Guha prefers to be called Guha...

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