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Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by pjmlp on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @08:09AM (#31737959)
So, F# with NuGet/Fake, Scala or Kotlin with Maven/Gradle, OCaml with OPAM.

Those points are hardly Rust specific and apply to any compiled language with ML influences.

Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by olalonde on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:41AM (#31739326)
From the official "Maven in 5 Minutes" tutorial:

    mvn archetype:generate -DgroupId=com.mycompany.app -DartifactId=my-app -DarchetypeArtifactId=maven-archetype-quickstart -DarchetypeVersion=1.4 -DinteractiveMode=false
From the official Rust lang book, Cargo section:

    cargo new my-project
I guess it's a matter of taste...
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by chungus on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @03:20PM (#31744634)
I think it's worth making the distinction between Maven as a build tool and Maven as a package manager, because the latter I think does work quite well.

I've had enough maven for a lifetime. Too much time spent fiddling with settings.xml files and m2 folders, debugging builds in enterprise environments with dozen module projects and a mix of internal and public dependencies.

Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by pjmlp on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @03:56PM (#31745173)
Now I guess you debug config.toml and build.rs files all the way up to ~/.cargo.
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by pjmlp on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:53AM (#31739538)
My IDE does that for me, you are looking at the wrong tree.
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by lenkite on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @12:14PM (#31741564)
Just use `gradle init`. Even that long maven project gen command can be simply hidden by a shell parameterized alias
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by stevepeg on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @08:12AM (#31738008)
No disagreement here. My post is a praise of Rust, not "everyone must use Rust!". These languages and tools are also great!

(edit) added 'tools'

Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by rowls66 on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:12AM (#31738920)
Maybe you should retitle your article "Why Rust is one of many great choices for startups"
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by drogus on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:31AM (#31739181)
These comments are still in context of using the language in a startup. Good luck with finding Ocaml, F# or Scala devs.
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by kaba0 on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:44AM (#31739397)
There are much more Scala devs than Rust devs.
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by niclo on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @01:45PM (#31743125)
Sounds like a bold claim to me, let alone the "much more" part.

Have you got any data to support it ?

Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by kaba0 on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @03:40PM (#31744941)
Well, it is hard to get a true picture without some probably paid data, but Scala has been around for longer (especially if we only look at the time when the language was reasonable well known), and I know plenty of companies that have significant Scala code bases even from the top of my head. Rust, not much. Of course I could be dead wrong, but I think as of now Rust has more hype than actual code written in it (but it is not baseless hype, imo the language actually lives up to it so its usage will likely grow faster than Scala’s)
Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by pjmlp on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @09:54AM (#31739548)
Do you want to discuss market share?
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Re:Why Rust is a great choice for startups by yung_steezy on Tuesday June 14, 2022 @08:19AM (#31738102)
I completely disagree with this sentiment. I don't see how this is relevant for an open source language.