Sadly, Samsung is leapfrogging LG with QD OLED :-( Which is going to be better technology (brighter colors with OLED blacks)

Owner of 2 LG OLEDs

I think many people would be satisfied with not having the latest and greatest in exchange for a respectful device.

Many others would be frustrated if they have to compromise.

Most people see very little beyond 1080p

Frankly, as I get older I can appreciate that statement.

I can see it still, but I don't care. And thinking about it, I quit caring at 1080i. (Growing up with CRT video, interlace isn't something that bothers me)

I super appreciated 1080p :)

And that's all I really need. What I've noticed is that my appreciation of the material doesn't improve with the resolution beyond 1080p. And I really like glowing phosphors in tubes, first the CRT, then a pretty great plasma that I plan on camping on, until whatever OLED thing makes sense at some point in the future.

That set will probably run well beyond 1080p. I won't care, might even run it at 1080p anyway.

Extreme detail seems to take me out of the production sometimes, or I see artifacts that I would not see at a lower resolution. Think people call it the "soap opera" effect.

Resolution isn't the only thing that is is improving. If anything, resolution has pretty much flatlined with 4K at least for now (yes, there are 8K screens if you have too much money but the pay off just not there). Contrast and colors however are much more easily noticeable. Evene someome with bad eyes can notice the ugly grey that pre-OLED monitors call "black".

Sony is shipping the Samsung QD OLED panels in their Bravia range as well, if that's any consolation

> brighter colors

How bright do you want them to be? Do you watch Netflix in a sun-lit room?

I think they mean more saturated colours? Though I suppose the current OLED TVs already support DCI-P3 and there is no bigger colourspace available for video content.

Edit: Actually, one thing that LG do is that they have a white pixel (RGBW layout) for the really high brightnesses required for HDR. This means colours get paler when the white pixel is used. This could be what they meant.

I do - why wouldn’t I want to be able to do that?

Some people don't watch tv during the day...

Really? I thought LG was pretty good. I'd have bought one already but I'm thinking about moving house and I don't want to have to deal with a fragile 55 or 65" TV. Also, I need the money for a downpayment.

I currently have a 32" LG LCD which I'm also pretty happy about. It's obviously no OLED and it's not 4K but for a cheap LCD it's pretty decent. I also love the serial control options (over USB) and I'm working to integrate it with Home assistant (so my screen will dim also when I dim the lights in the room).

Not to derail the overall discussion but LG OLED is still the best blacks and the best option if you can control room lighting. The latest Samsung QLED has gotten closer on blacks (though the latest LG have gotten closer on brights too…) and is still the brightest but neither “beat” the other, it depends on if you want the blackest blacks or the brightest brights. Also of note is the QLED only goes to 65”, LG goes to 83” Check out comparisons on rtings.

Ok for me I'd want the blackest blacks for sure, I would often use my screen in the pitch black. It's because I live in Spain and in the summer I live with the windows wide open and that means that at night I can't have lights on or my house will be swarming with bugs (the creepy crawly kind, not the regular HN kind :P ) You can use netting etc but in my place this is really difficult.

So yeah that would be super important. Thanks for the comparison!

LG were the best since they had a monopoly on OLED TVs but now that Samsung is competing this year they are behind in most metrics.

lol - (owner of 2 because I broke the first one moving) ;-)

Try using NextDNS on your tv. They have a preset list for Samsung that used to block the ads.

Yup this is good suggestion, mine blocks the deluge of of telemetry pings and all other nonsense from my cheap chinese TV, also blocks in-app ads

The AppleTV he recommended to use in its place has ads too I believe, through sponsored app placements.

> The AppleTV he recommended to use in its place has ads too I believe, through sponsored app placements

This really is the most nitpicking anti-Apple comments I’ve seen in a while. A friend of mine had a TV that would randomly interrupt films and programs he was watching (even in the middle of an action sequence) and show an ad that was inserted by the TV software. Luckily only happened for about 6 months - I’m guessing viewer reaction was too much for this ‘feature’ to survive.

To see the ‘ad’ you’re referring to, you’d have to go into the Apple AppStore, search for an app, go to the result screen and maybe see a small section at the top of that view with a sponsored application.

What a nit.

> AppleTV or similar

Pick your poison. Doesn't have to be Apple TV, you could use anything from a Roku to a kodi stick to plugging a computer into the TV and playing things locally. What you're criticizing isn't the point.

I guess, the point here is, why disable the smart features in your TV only to plug another, just as “smart”, device (i.e. one that watches you) in it?

…because it has less/no ads, and without some smarts somewhere I can’t watch Netflix?

Feel free to substitute a computer running GNU/Linux as the “smarts” here. This can be quite ergonomic with a wireless trackpad-keyboard combo. I’m quite happy with an Apple TV running Emby though.