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Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by rblatz on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:17AM (#31705090)
This tweet pointed out that a woman designer popularized the glass stair.

https://twitter.com/kaeae/status/1535445162872033280?s=21&t=...

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by renewiltord on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:53AM (#31705425)
Poster seems to have protected tweets

Here's the architect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Ji%C5%99i%C4%8Dn%C3%A1

> She is known for her attention to detail and work of a distinctly modern style, and for her glass staircases.

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by twic on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:38PM (#31705812)
To be fair, based on a quick google, Jiřičná mostly seems to wear trousers.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by user764743 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:24AM (#31705171)
I don't think you can see through these stairs, seems however like it is possible to build glass stairs without them being fully transparent.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by gruez on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:28AM (#31705208)
I wouldn't say "you can't see through these stairs". It looks like the glass itself is transparent (ie. it's not frosted or anything), but there's some sort of reinforcing mesh that partially obscures it.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by 0des on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:08PM (#31705548)
All of these glass stairs near me are so scuffed up you can only just tell a human is above it
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by ghaff on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:36AM (#31705281)
I think the Apple Store on Fifth Avenue has a similar type of design.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by samstave on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:39PM (#31705816)
You know what would be REALLY cool - using the electronically frosting glass which turns opaque, and have it activated anytime anyone steps on the stairs.

We installed these in a hospital's ER department for all the ER and ICU bays. So it was clear - but if there was a Code being called (i.e. someone crashing/going into arrest) they can flip all the glass opaque.

This worked REALLY well in a hospital in LA which had very small ER bays - and getting an entire crash team with intubation etc packed the tiny space with like 10 people. Having a curtain in there consumes people space...

One way is to have 2 or 3 stair treads ahead and behind of the foot placement (weight) turn opaque.

Another thing would also be good for LEDs to light up the frosted treads as they are walked on with a soft glow, but very strong edge defenition (such as a colored-glowing edge of a contrasting light.

Have the stairs light in a running sequence when an emergency/fire alarm is sounded. (but not so fast as to cause vertigo on fleeing tenants.

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With that said, I dislike glass stairwells in general.

Take SalesForce's 50 Fremont building in San francisco.

Up between like levels 39/40 - there used to be a lawfirm in that space prior to Salesforce buying the build which contained a completely 80's-Cocaine-Infused interior design with a spiral stair going between the floors.

They replaced the gaudy railings of the large spiral stair with curved glass panels. They weigh like 500 pounds each, are extremely expensive (due to the helix nature of the curve) -- but they proved to be really difficult to install without breaking.

I know we went through at least two of the very top panels breaking, but it may have been as many as three breaking during install)

The point is, I know how fragile they were during install - so I do not trust their seismic ratings.

I would say though that the glass stairs in the flagship SF Apple store are made with like ~7-poly-layered glass with the same tech used un windscreens... but these treads and rails in apple are thicker than anthing I had seen prior...

But still - the last place I want to be standing upon during any seismic event is made of glass.

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Seismic torsion/twisting on the panels will still statter/crack them -- but into smal little square diamonds that can still fuck you up quite easily if youre body is also being violently thrown against them whilst walking up/down in a skirt during an earthquake.

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by malepoon on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:49PM (#31705915)
Please no, if you need to add so much complexity just to work around problems with glass stairs, it's better to just go with boring normal stairs.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by majewsky on Saturday June 11, 2022 @01:25PM (#31706225)
In a way, GP's post perfectly captures what's going wrong in much of modern software "engineering". Piling on and on more complexity to work around follow-up issues, instead of having the courage to go back and reverse a bad decision.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by samstave on Saturday June 11, 2022 @01:38PM (#31706332)
What I am illustrating is that MILLIONS and MILLIONS$$ of dollars go into the design of these "environments" -- every major Architect on the planet will continue to do such, while claiming to be LEED/GREEN/etc...

Gensler is famous for such.

My job was to ensure proper installation and implementation of said designs in conjunction with all trades (Not the stairs per se...)

But - these types of designs are not going away.

(Glass' primary material is effectively "free" from the earth (not in energy or manpower etc))

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So we can call out all we want, but this stuff is here to stay.

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by samstave on Saturday June 11, 2022 @01:53PM (#31706475)
To be clear, see my other reply below -- I agree with you, its just that I know a LOT of architects. (worked with the infomous Frank Gheary on MPKW, designers of billionaires homes and yachts)

The design ideas are going full video game. Forever.

Have you played any level on Hitman 3? The level design on this video game surpasses a lot (or more) of architectual designs I have worked on building IRL...

So, the idea is that "smarter materials" "LEED/SMART buildings" "tech permeating every aspect of a building" -- so that basically any future building ~20 years from now is going to be a toxic supersite once it peaks its lilfetime.)

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What I personally just dont have experience with in this space ; Building Lifecycle Management ;; We put in all this tech, that relies on plastics, heavy-metals and carcinogens embedded in the building, in a less-harvastable way, when EoL -- and we have a shit ton of recycling problems to solve... else, just throw it all in the ocean like we have been doing for eons.

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by Fatnino on Sunday June 12, 2022 @09:12AM (#31714220)
The sf Union Square Apple store stairs are also cracked. Or we'll last time I was there years ago.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by est31 on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:00PM (#31705488)
While this is a male/female issue, I want to point out that men can wear skirts too, and women can wear trousers as well. It's not the 40s any more. The tweet mentioned gender nowhere.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by gcr on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:22PM (#31705672)
in the USA at least, men who wear skirts are frequently treated worse by their colleagues, for example. So there's complexity here.

Though not explicitly mentioned, this sort of thing is "gendered" in the sense that crossdressing still carries social and professional consequences (even for women, to some extent). Which is a shame, because crossdressing is awesome.

(i'm not the one who's downvoting you)

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by Philip-J-Fry on Saturday June 11, 2022 @04:24PM (#31708000)
The issue is that men wearing skirts is referred to as "crossdressing". When really it should just be men wearing what they like. If a man wears a skirt, then it's a man wearing a skirt.

That's the real way forward. "crossdressing" has a stigma because the very meaning of that word comes from gendering clothing. So you need to stop using that term.

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by bradknowles on Sunday June 12, 2022 @02:04AM (#31711906)
I've worn a kilt. That's not cross-dressing.

But that was at SCA events, not a work environment. I don't think you'll find glass staircases at SCA events.

TBH, I'm not a fan of glass treads on staircases, I'm not a fan of glass rails on staircases, in fact I'm not really a fan of anything glass in any part of a stairway or staircase construction. Windows next to a stairway are okay, but I think that's about as far as I'd go.

OTOH, glass does wear better than marble, and marble is frequently pretty slippery.

So, maybe no marble treads, either. Some other types of stone would be okay (e.g., granite), but only if they were properly prepared so that they wouldn't be slippery, and would have rounded edges in case you fall.

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by brickshed on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:23PM (#31705680)
I don't think they were making an anti-trans comment, you're right though, people should be allowed to wear what they want and others mustn't abuse them for it.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by NullPrefix on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:14PM (#31705598)
According to the statistics, about half kilt wearers aren't wearing anyting under the kilts
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by mauvehaus on Saturday June 11, 2022 @12:29PM (#31705730)
The difference between a kilt and a skirt is whether or not you're wearing underwear.

I mean, not technically, but it usually shuts up anybody who wants to give you a hard time about wearing a skirt.

Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by samwillis on Saturday June 11, 2022 @11:26AM (#31705181)
That’s a beautiful staircase, but it would be just a special with any other tread. The beauty of it is the lightweight construction and exposed engineering of the delicate support structure. I think a black marble tread would be rather lovely and an interesting contrast of old and new materials.
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by Fatnino on Sunday June 12, 2022 @09:21AM (#31714276)
Is that tweet protected from everyone now or did I just end up on some list?
Re:Transparent stairs: what happens when no-one on the desig... by antifa on Sunday June 12, 2022 @10:29AM (#31714764)
I don't have a Twitter and I only saw a wall of "protected tweets". I have no idea why tweets are allowed here, there's no comprehensible content beyond the title.