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Re:Deluge BitTorrent Client by sph on Thursday June 09, 2022 @03:28AM (#31678486)
I hate this philosophy of yours with all my might.

When you put something out there, you should strive to do right by your users. It is fine if you do not have time to fix a particular bug, but communication and asking for help should then be your priorities as maintainer. If 10 years of mostly silence on your part have passed, IMHO you have failed to be an effective open source maintainer.

I understand that open source doesn't offer you any rights or guarantees, but it does not have to be written in a contract to care about your software and its particular shortcomings.

Lastly, if you say a maintainer can do whatever they want with their software, I say that users should be free to be critical of it. There is no attitude in OP, they pointed out that a possibly major security bug still exists and people should be very careful about using it. Being open source doesn't mean nobody should dare criticise you.

Re:Deluge BitTorrent Client by wildmanx on Thursday June 09, 2022 @03:49AM (#31678617)
> When you put something out there, you should strive to do right by your users.

We clearly disagree here.

I also like when some open source author is responsive after they put something out there. And I myself try to be helpful as well. After all, one of the reasons for me publishing things as open source is to attract a community that directly (through patches) or indirectly (through issue reports) helps me to improve the thing I made. Win-win!

But demanding this is actually actively hurtful to the ecosystem. To put it bluntly, would you prefer that somebody just doesn't publish some nice piece of software they wrote to scratch some itch they had just because they have no time/energy/desire to then provide support for users? I don't. I want them to publish it anyway. Maybe somebody else can pick up the maintenance. Or not, but at least it's out there.

> I hate this philosophy of yours with all my might.

"Hate" is a strong word. This is pretty sad.

Re:Deluge BitTorrent Client by EdwardDiego on Thursday June 09, 2022 @03:32AM (#31678526)
Or, it's been 10 years because no-one has submitted a reproducible test-case.

At least, I don't see any in that bug report.

Re:Deluge BitTorrent Client by em-bee on Thursday June 09, 2022 @06:00AM (#31679373)
(apologies, this might be a bit snarky)

i hate this philosophy of yours with all my might. (ok, not really, but i do dislike it)

when i put something out there, i do it to share what i build for myself and for my own needs. i may be asking for help in general, but i won't ask for help for every specific issue unless that issue is a priority for my self and i can't fix it. time is to short to worry about every single low priority problem.

and how dare you judge someone elses effectiveness as a maintainer!

that, my friend, is quite an insult. you have no idea how effective they are. you don't live their life. you don't know what other responsibilities they have. what's next? asking that they commit a minimum number of hours each week for the project? demanding that they respond to any request within a day?

users should be free to be critical of it

absolutely not. you can say: "unfortunately, i have this problem, so i can't use this, i am going to go use something else". but that's about it.

criticism is the bane of our society. criticism hurts peoples feelings. criticism causes burnout. FOSS maintainers are volunteers and absolutely do not deserve that kind of criticism for just developing software. (that doesn't make them above any criticism. if they are rude or mean to their users, then that may well be criticized. but not if they ignore a problem or are unresponsive. they may well have other things in their life that are more important than to care about your software issue) (and if the developer is paid, direct any criticism at the company, but don't beat up the employee who may not have the freedom to choose what issues to work on)

Being open source doesn't mean nobody should dare criticise you

if you didn't pay for it, it means exactly that.