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Re:Musk SEC Filing by dekhn on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:46AM (#31640378)
It's exactly appropriate. It's how the majority of us feel and his behavior is not impressing anybody.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by qzx_pierri on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:51AM (#31640464)
You do realize that HN is not just one person? The trendy opinion online amongst left leaning millenials is that Elon = BAD. But not everyone feels the same as you.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by dekhn on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:57AM (#31640540)
Yes, I realize HN is not just one person. But I have a pretty good feel for the majority of people on this site.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by ekianjo on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:00AM (#31640574)
> But I have a pretty good feel for the majority of people on this site.

Oh yes? Reading minds much?

Re:Musk SEC Filing by dekhn on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:07AM (#31640671)
I've been on this site for nearly 10 years, and read enormous number of comments, enough to synthesize a good working model of the thoughts of the people who comment. Obviously if there are a lot of readers who don't comment I can't really impute their positions, but I think I have a pretty good idea.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by ekianjo on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:24AM (#31641667)
I've been there longer than you and I have a different perception on what the majority of HN might think. Which means one of us is really wrong.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by LMYahooTFY on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:51AM (#31641220)
I've been on this site for a few years as well and think your impression is probably skewed.

Don't claim to speak for others.

Re:Musk SEC Filing by ksec on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:27AM (#31641709)
I am not pro musk or Anti Musk ( or in this case I am much more on musk's side ), but I do agree with parents that generally speaking majority of HN ( at least those who comment ) is anti Musk, and left leaning, especially in the past few years.

And HN used to be called a platform for Alt-Right in its early days.

Re:Musk SEC Filing by CodeWriter23 on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:51AM (#31640447)
You might want to read the letter. Your feelings might then have some basis in reality.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by dekhn on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:58AM (#31640555)
I read the letter. It's standard lawyerese, overinflating his claims.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by CodeWriter23 on Monday June 06, 2022 @02:00PM (#31643625)
It’s a standard notice of breach, Twitter has a de facto 30 days to respond. I would also point out, this letter follows the original request by 30 days.

I think characterizing Musk’s request for Twitter to substantiate what they have placed in the public record with some actual methodology not fluff as “overinflated” is kinda unreasonable given we all already know their stats are full of shit to begin with.

Re:Musk SEC Filing by debacle on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:48AM (#31640408)
Please don't claim to speak for a majority.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by rvnx on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:51AM (#31640465)
Yeah he is the master boss of debt and capitalism and you are on a venture capital forum aka "how to raise ultra risk debt super fast". So Elon must be doing something right, the same way that YC is doing the right thing.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by mlindner on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:48AM (#31640412)
His behavior is completely fine. Just because you don't want to hear news about him doesn't make his behavior wrong. He's saying that Twitter isn't providing valid information and is blocking him from having access to information he has a right to have access to.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by ctvo on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:03AM (#31640619)
> He's saying that Twitter isn't providing valid information and is blocking him from having access to information he has a right to have access to.

He should have asked for this prior to agreeing to buy the company. This has veered into legal posturing by his legal team. The letter sent and the on the record with the SEC filing are for future litigation purposes. Many of us expected it would when the market turned and the deal was obviously overvalued. Elon timed the deal incorrectly. Unlikely many of us who would have to live with our poor business decisions, he's using the tools available to someone of his wealth to litigate his way out of this entirely or to a better price.

It's tiring because it was expected. This wasn't 5D chess.

Re:Musk SEC Filing by dekhn on Monday June 06, 2022 @09:56AM (#31640524)
That's an exceptionally naive analysis of the situation. Nobody makes an agreement to buy a multibillion dollar company and waives due diligence, then makes a stink afterwards. He's not some crusading knight in armor protecting the world from twitter's bots.

His behavior (across a wide range of things) is not fine. Which is a real shame because the core of his business activities right now is great, and his behavior constantly distracts from that.

Re:Musk SEC Filing by mlindner on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:01AM (#31640585)
Elon is well known to leap before checking everything on the other side. That's well within the norm of his behavior. For the record, I'd actually prefer if he didn't buy Twitter as I care about him spending that time on SpaceX instead. Getting us to Mars is a much bigger problem than fixing one minor social media platform.

Most of the "behavior" that is reported about him is exaggerated, taken out of context, or outright lies. So no, in general I don't have huge issues with his current behavior. It's a lot better than it was back during the time period when Tesla was having a lot of financial issues and he was an emotional wreck.

Re:Musk SEC Filing by dgfitz on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:04AM (#31640636)
> His behavior (across a wide range of things) is not fine.

Not fine, or you just disagree with? Two very different things.

Re:Musk SEC Filing by dekhn on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:08AM (#31640693)
Both. I mean, I totally love that he's obsessed with Culture novels and named his money team "Excession". But I think his behavior is antisocial- rich person acting almost entirely from ego.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by ceejayoz on Monday June 06, 2022 @10:42AM (#31641115)
It's rather fascinating to me that Musk entirely missed the point of the Culture novels. Banks was a socialist, writing about a socialist utopia that literally goes in to intervene and overthrow billionaire oligarchs like Veppers in Surface Detail.

Veppers is even trying to wiggle out of a contract he doesn't want; it's a central plot point!

Re:Musk SEC Filing by dekhn on Monday June 06, 2022 @11:54AM (#31642075)
I didn't particularly like Surface Detail. But, anyway: I think the Culture is post-scarcity, computer-managed, not socialist. Socialist systems deal with scarcity. If people in the culture truly wanted to play with money, there would always have been some station or ship they could go to and play with money.
Re:Musk SEC Filing by ceejayoz on Monday June 06, 2022 @01:05PM (#31642988)
Post-scarcity socialism, luxury fully-automated space communism; whatever you call it, it's not hyper-capitalism.