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Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by Alupis on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:41PM (#31603195)
To make it as clear as possible -

Dealerships compete to win your business. They compete in varying ways, which include price and service.

Who does Ford compete with if they set all of the prices and offer direct sales for an entire product line (EV's in this case)?

The answer is "nobody". And we all know competition is what benefits the consumer... this is a regression, not an advancement.

The dealership model can use a shake-up - nobody will argue otherwise. But the answer isn't to destroy competition and allow manufactures to set whatever price they want. That benefits literally nobody except Ford.

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by kortilla on Thursday June 02, 2022 @10:39PM (#31603604)
> Who does Ford compete with if they set all of the prices and offer direct sales for an entire product line (EV's in this case)?

Literally every other car manufacturer. Wtf…?

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by mechagodzilla on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:49PM (#31603262)
Doesn’t Ford compete with . . . All the other car companies? Tesla, VW, GM, Kia, Honda, Toyota?
Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by hackernewds on Thursday June 02, 2022 @10:43PM (#31603634)
If Ford sells a car at $20000 to a dealership, no way they sell it to you below $20000 given they even have additional costs due to the inefficiencies of being a middleman, rent, transportation, manual staff, insurance, etc
Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by toast0 on Friday June 03, 2022 @01:55AM (#31604740)
Just like Ford can give the purchaser rebates, they can give the dealer rebates or holdbacks or various other payments when the car is sold (or if enough of certain types of cars are sold) or payments while the car is unsold; just because Ford sold the car for $20,000 doesn't mean the dealer gave them net $20,000 for it.
Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by zarathustreal on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:46PM (#31603233)
>Who does Ford compete with if they set all of the prices and offer direct sales for an entire product line (EV's in this case)?

>The answer is "nobody".

It would seem to me that the answer would be "every other EV manufacturer"?

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by argonaut on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:43PM (#31603210)
They compete with other automakers.

By your logic Ford can just jack up the price they charge to dealers and the dealers would have no choice but to accept it. But that's not true because Ford has to compete with other automakers.

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by Alupis on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:48PM (#31603254)
Very few automakers make competing vehicles.

There's a reason Tesla/Rivian can charge so much, and it's not because they're so much better built or way more luxurious than others.

Re:Ford CEO says EVs will be sold 100% online with nonnegoti... by argonaut on Thursday June 02, 2022 @09:55PM (#31603303)
You're basically arguing that Ford has a semi-monopoly over the car categories they compete in. Which is pretty laughable.

Again, by your logic Ford can just jack up the price they charge to dealers and the dealers would have no choice but to accept it. But that's not true because Ford has to compete with other automakers.