Not really relevant to cordless ones but I know Dyson removed their pre-motor filter on their latest corded vacuums. If the dust chamber is too full excess dust is blown through the motor and then stopped from coming out into the air by a post motor filter. This will lead to premature motor failure over time.

The Dyson 'bagless' idea is a bit of a sham. Yes they work, but they don't work that well. They don't make as much suction as their bagged competitors so they cheat and use smaller orifices to increase suction instead of by having a larger motor or alternative design. Then in order to have 'like new' performance all the time you have to continually wash (which doesn't really clean well enough) or replace filters.

Some people love them but they don't make sense to me. If I'm emptying my vacuum I'm going to empty it into a bag anyway so I may as well use a bagged vacuum that works more consistently and doesn't throw dust everywhere.

I love bagless, it is perfect for my use case. I have Huskies and fill up the canister multiple times per vacuuming of the house. The majority of my vacuuming is just picking up hair, not dirt. I'd fill bags up so quickly, and I've yet to find one that is replaceable as quick as a bagless canister can be emptied.

It's not a sham, different use cases call for different things.

They are good in certain circumstances, but they use a few tricks, eg. there is no battery meter on the V6 to avoid range anxiety, so it will just die without warning and flash a LED vs having a battery gauge.

The suction is also pretty poor, however it makes up for it by having a roller in the vacuum head which picks up the dirt.

If you have anyone in the house with long hair its almost unusable as the roller will be clogged up after a single vacuum. A traditional vacuum with better suction and no roller wont have this issue.

On the plus side they are light and manoeuvrable, and the wall mount means you always keep it charged.

I agree with all of this. I've had mine 5 years now, the battery life was never greatand unsurprisingly it's not getting any better... Would I'd buy another? Probably not. I heard Shark is supposed to be pretty good.

Shark's cordless vacs are pretty mediocre. Especially poor battery life. Tossed mine in favor for a Roborock that is only marginally more expensive, but far better in basically every way (run time, suction power, accessories, ease of cleaning).

I've never heard of Roborock and cant find much availability in Europe which might explain the one price I did find. Shame, the Dyson won't cut it once I move to a bigger place.

I have one of the cordless vacs. It works well at being a cordless, the size is great and it's easy to handle but...

It's made of really cheap plastic and has cracked in a few places.

Being bagless is good in that I can see what it's collected but bad in that when come to empty it the dust I'm allergic to goes everywhere. (If only someone would invent a bag to keep the dust in eh?).

I had a Dyson. I lost it in a breakup. I got a Shark. I figured any cordless stick vacuum is gonna get me what I want. The Shark is nowhere near as good. I found a Dyson on the street. It runs circles around the Shark. It's no contest. It makes it so easy to vacuum without all the ceremony of vacuuming from the past.

I guess people just like complaining, it works great, especially used together with a robotic vacuum cleaner for the easy locations. I just got some food on the floor an hour ago, I would have been lazy to get a wired vacuum cleaner there, but with Dyson wireless it was really easy.

I love their cordless vacuums. Mine's approaching 6 years with no issues whatsoever. My previous (corded) Dyson vacuum also works perfectly to this day, bought in 2006 and used at least every other day (because dogs) for 10 years. It fell down the stairs a couple of times, too. Really robust in my experience.

The cordless one does not quite match the suction, but it's so much more convenient and sufficient nonetheless.

I got a Black & Decker cordless vacuum and it works great. Great battery (~60-90m runtime on full charge) which is also easily swappable (same batteries as their drills) with decent suction, build quality feels good too. It's almost 3x cheaper than the Dyson so really great value

Unfortunately, they make the best cordless vacuum. I have one and it's very good, but I couldn't say it was good value.

I have the Dyson V10. And I got it much cheaper by buying refurb and coupon stacking for <$200. I think they were the first to get the cordless vacuum formfactor right. There are many alternatives now that are significantly cheaper. And if I wasn't able to purchase mine at the price I did I probably would have considered them.

No they're not that bad. The jets are pointed downwards

Dyson aren't awful but they're definitely overpriced.

I have a V8, my wife loves it and I appreciate it as well. We have a large apartment, so we prefer cordless solutions. Dyson has a decent battery and enough of sucking force to be useful. Personally can recommend. It also cleans super easily, with one lever.

I have a corded dyson that doesn't use those dust bags, but it sucks (but not in the way a vacuum is supposed to). It's squeaky plastic and feels rough/wrong on the ground.

Miele - more expensive than Dyson though.

I use a Tineco one - twice as cheap as the Dyson and it works great for years now.

Don't know how good it is, but I'm considering a Bosch universalvac 18 since it uses the same batteries as a bunch of their cordless tools and garden products (18V) which I already have a couple of

I have a tineco cordless vacuum which I think is incredibly well built, I bought it because it topped the Consumer Reports leaderboard at the time I was looking for one

Roborock cordless vacuums are fantastic. Have an H7 and have nothing but praise for effectiveness and versatility.

I own both Dyson and Samsung, and I'd say they're pretty equal, but Samsung is much quieter.