Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1....
by jeffbee on Saturday May 21, 2022 @01:51PM
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The facts aren't really on your side of the argument. The glued-together Apple phones are the ones least likely to be in the trash. They are still shipping the latest software on phones from 2015. By contrast, removable-battery phones are all garbage practically as soon as you open the box. The Samsung XCover is only 2 years old, might not even get Android 12, and definitely will never get anything after Android 12.
Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1....
by desmondwillow on Saturday May 21, 2022 @02:42PM
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> By contrast, removable-battery phones are all garbage practically as soon as you open the box. The Samsung XCover is only 2 years old, might not even get Android 12, and definitely will never get anything after Android 12.
That isn't a property intrinsic to removable-battery phones; An Apple phone with a removable battery would be the best in terms of software and battery longevity, both of which are factors which serve to prolong the life of the phone.
Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1....
by paulryanrogers on Saturday May 21, 2022 @01:55PM
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Imagine a world in which iphones still had user swappable batteries. They would almost certainly retain their appeal and fewer would end up in landfills.
The fact that they've become a luxury brand is a compounding factor you cannot dismiss. You're comparing apples to oranges.
Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1....
by nasmorn on Saturday May 21, 2022 @04:00PM
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I have had batteries replaced by random repair shops for 40 euros before. If I could have done it for 20 in parts how does that change the calculus compared to a new phone?
Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1....
by paulryanrogers on Saturday May 21, 2022 @04:47PM
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Phones are more likely to end up in landfills when batteries and basic repairs aren't user serviceable. The calculus should include externalities like the cost in resources for new phone vs only a new battery.
Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1....
by ddingus on Saturday May 21, 2022 @10:45PM
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Ars technical has a story running on the topic of "lost" limited natural resources.
It speaks right to how landfill mining is likely to be a thing in a less distant future than many of us are likely to expect.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/05/new-study-estimates-...
Re:Apple Shipped Me a 79-Pound iPhone Repair Kit to Fix a 1....
by ashwagary on Sunday May 22, 2022 @09:36AM
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Waterproof or governmental pressure?
Hate to sound like a conspiracy theorist but tracking devices dont work so well if the person being tracked can completely disable them when they wish.
As phone features plateau we should strive to make them last longer and avoid unnecessarily consuming tons of new material every year. (IIRC a single iphone consumes like 0.5 tons of materials to go from the ground to the pocket.)