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Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by me_me_mu_mu on Friday May 20, 2022 @04:11AM (#31444645)
Reddit user experience is awful. I like the Reddit communities I follow but my god is it annoying af to use it on mobile browser or even the desktop client. I don’t want to install your app. Deal with it, because I’m dealing with it by not using it and I hope more people follow. The app which I’ve tried crashes often, and the video auto play sometimes breaks which is annoying and requires a restart. If I was logged out and login, I get taken to the fucking home tab. Why doesn’t it redirect me on the page I had open, I mean I can understand not being able to code (considering half the other stuff that doesn’t work) the position in the thread I was in, but at least put me on the same thread. Anyway GG no RE, barely use Reddit anymore because of this poor ux.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by moffkalast on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:01AM (#31444936)
Tbf there are third party apps that work quite well, I'm somewhat fond of Relay for Reddit myself and never have any issues with it. The official app is unfortunately complete trash.

Right now I'm not seeing any of these problems that OP is talking about when using old.reddit either. I think I may have ublocked all the banners and popups at some point.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by piva00 on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:18AM (#31445048)
On iOS I went from Alien Blue (which reddit bought and killed, fuck 'em) to Apollo and it's been a bliss, would never be able to use reddit if it wasn't for Apollo and RES on my desktop browser... Not really sure how they are attracting new users, the "new" reddit UI on a SPA is really, really awful.

It's impressive how much engineering effort reddit is able to waste, that isn't cheap.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by EscargotCult on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:23AM (#31445889)
Apollo is a really good mobile app for Reddit, but I expect Reddit will eventually buy it.

As for new users, it's likely a lot of people that reach Reddit from Google - their SEO seems to have gotten loads better in recent years. They also don't remember how simple oldreddit was, so they have no reference point.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by nabakin on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:12AM (#31448552)
I use Boost for Reddit and it's great! So much better than the website in any form or the official app.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by FargaColora on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:03AM (#31445733)
API is being removed soon, which will break all third party apps.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by moffkalast on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:35AM (#31448892)
I can't see any mention of that being the case anywhere, are you sure?
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by sofixa on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:09AM (#31445774)
Really? Have they announced this or is it speculation/inside information on your side?
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by ASalazarMX on Friday May 20, 2022 @12:37PM (#31449723)
Source: trust me bro.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by zoover2020 on Friday May 20, 2022 @04:27AM (#31444753)
They had something good and ruined it due to investors squeezing out ad revenue. Shame.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by me_me_mu_mu on Friday May 20, 2022 @04:29AM (#31444767)
It’s all a cycle. I’m sure something like early Reddit will pop up soon (might already exist).
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by Sightline on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:02AM (#31444942)
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by justaj on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:57AM (#31445307)
PSA: Don't use this for a Tor hidden service forum as it heavily relies on JS to be functional.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by mariusor on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:22AM (#31448688)
I think that Lemmy is not really a replacement for the old reddit. Lemmy devs are too fond of frontend Javascript to qualify in my opinion.

The federated alternative that I'm building[1], is trying to specifically keep some of the benefits of old reddit (and of HN, and of lobste.rs), most important of which being that it has no reliance on Javascript and that it has a minimal size footprint.

[1] https://littr.me (just a demo instance)

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by alexb_ on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:44AM (#31446032)
>selfhosted

AAAAAND you lost literally 95% of every single person who might even consider using this. Stop trying to make "fediverse" happen. It's not going to happen. All you do is end up putting great developers into projects that will literally never, ever amount to anything due to an insistence on decentralization.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by mariusor on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:17AM (#31448629)
I disagree, I think slowly communities of reddit will migrate to self hosted versions of it, be them lemmy or any of the other federated alternatives that are out there. I work on one of those, and I have been contacted twice by moderators of small/medium subreddits being interested in using my software for taking their users off reddit. Sadly, nothing concrete happened, but it shows me that there really is an interest.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by AndrewOMartin on Friday May 20, 2022 @04:35AM (#31444793)
You might already be posting on it :)
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by mort96 on Friday May 20, 2022 @04:47AM (#31444865)
No? HN is not in any way, shape or form a replacement for Reddit.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by moffkalast on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:04AM (#31444954)
Well it actually IS what reddit used to be. It's almost a carbon copy of the early versions before subreddits were a thing, though HN has slightly worse css and usability, presumably to keep out the normies and to make it run from that one raspberry pi that ycombinator has allocated to hosting it.

I do sorta wish HN had reply notifications.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by moehm on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:19AM (#31445056)
> I do sorta wish HN had reply notifications.

There is a 3rd party app for that, though I haven't tried it yet.

https://www.hnreplies.com/

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by lproven on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:40AM (#31446005)
I use it. It's excellent and works well.

The only problem with it is that it does not send you replies to your submissions, e.g. AskHN posts.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by robjan on Friday May 20, 2022 @07:22AM (#31445879)
It's by design to make flame wars harder to sustain
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by moffkalast on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:37AM (#31448919)
I'd believe that if it wasn't computationally intensive and HN wasn't already struggling under the 5 people that visit. I'm sure it's merely this way to reduce server load.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by 0dayz on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:02AM (#31444939)
Eh, HN is very much like reddit /r/technology + /r/programming but without fancy editor.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by AlecSchueler on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:47AM (#31445624)
More like Reddit in the days before subreddits.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by robswc on Friday May 20, 2022 @10:37AM (#31448035)
I personally use it as my reddit replacement ;) But I agree.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by gryn on Friday May 20, 2022 @05:04AM (#31444950)
FYI both Ycombinator and reddit have the same age, both were created in 2005 according to Wikipedia.

It kinda weird because for some reason in my mind Ycombinator was 5 year-ish older.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by wbsss4412 on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:36AM (#31448909)
I think tildes.net is an interesting one and has potential, though I must confess that I don’t really go there all that much because there’s too little activity for me to find what I’m interested in, so far.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by nojs on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:42AM (#31445581)
Maybe it’s just me but when I Google something, and land on a reddit result, and then am forced to open it in the app, the link opens the app but doesn’t navigate to the post. Therefore it’s actually impossible to see the full result, even if you have the app installed, without re-finding it in the app. Super frustrating!
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by lproven on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:56AM (#31445680)
The official client is rubbish, but the 3rd party ones are OK. BaconReader works well for me.

https://baconreader.com/

P.S.

I suspect that one of the issues with Reddit is a large number of regular visitors who lurk. No account, no login, never post, never upvote... but spend hours a day on the site.

Serving them means that features for actual active contributors have low priority. I suspect that looking at the site and its features with that in mind may explain a lot.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by ASalazarMX on Friday May 20, 2022 @12:42PM (#31449799)
> I suspect that one of the issues with Reddit is a large number of regular visitors who lurk. No account, no login, never post, never upvote... but spend hours a day on the site. Serving them means that features for actual active contributors have low priority.

They would be shooting themselves in the foot because the lurkers are looking for posts and comments. Prioritizing contributors would keep lurkers engaged longer, watching more ads.

Also, never underestimate the need of people to voice their opinions. Controversial topics will tempt lurkers to contribute.

Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by lproven on Sunday May 22, 2022 @08:40AM (#31467502)
I don't disagree. It's a rare model for a social media site, though, and so it's noteworthy.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by nabakin on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:17AM (#31448641)
I used to use baconreader but switched to Boost for Reddit
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by lproven on Sunday May 22, 2022 @08:39AM (#31467497)
Hmmm. I am happy for now but I will take a look on a spare device. Thanks!
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by vultour on Friday May 20, 2022 @06:21AM (#31445446)
I have the app and use it to casually browse. But the moment someone sends me a link on Discord, it opens in the built-in webview and tells me to fuck off unless I open it in the app I just abandon my attempt. Sorry but I value the second it takes to switch the app more than the content.
Re:Tell HN: Reddit does not allow comments post via old.redd... by nabakin on Friday May 20, 2022 @11:16AM (#31448604)
Try out Boost for Reddit. Better than website in any form, the official Reddit app, and every other 3rd party app imo