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Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by Steko on Friday October 21, 2011 @03:49PM (#3141356)
"So in essence this has been solved across the board."

Which is why ICS Galaxy Nexus demo units were reported to still be laggy?

Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by Pewpewarrows on Friday October 21, 2011 @03:59PM (#3141395)
Not from what I saw or heard. Engadget's review for example praised how silky smooth the entire user experience now was.

Though I can imagine that being a beta build running in debug mode doesn't really help, if someone did see the occasional hiccup.

Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by Steko on Friday October 21, 2011 @06:01PM (#3141909)
"As to overall performance, we saw a good deal of stutter in the Galaxy Nexus before us. Taps were not always recognized and there were occasional delays in performing an instruction, though in Google’s defense, it was a phone fully loaded with running tasks and the software is being continually improved and optimized (i.e. it’s not yet fully baked). That having been said, it unfortunately remains the case that Android isn’t as swift and responsive as iOS or Windows Phone (or even MeeGo Harmattan on the N9). Or at least it wasn’t on the demo phone we got a look at. The subtle, pervasive lag that has characterized the Android UI since its inception is still there, which is not a heartening thing to hear when you’re talking about a super-powered dual-core device like the Galaxy Nexus."

http://thisismynext.com/2011/10/18/galaxy-nexus-android-ice-...

Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by ecspike on Friday October 21, 2011 @06:31PM (#3142014)
I was able to play with the device for a couple of minutes and like Engadget found it to be smooth.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by chugger on Friday October 21, 2011 @04:49PM (#3141634)
Hardware acceleration is just one piece of the puzzle. Garbage collection is another issue. with ICS, you will now be able to run the garbage collector on a different core. great in theory but experience tells me that's a band aid solution.

A lot of people wonder why garbage collection is done manually in iOS/Obj C. Performance is one reason, battery life is another.

Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by chugger on Friday October 21, 2011 @04:23PM (#3141500)
is ICS going to fix all the crashes, virus/spyware/malware, poor battery life? will ICS even run on older Android phones? will your carrier even let you upgrade to ICS?
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by erwanl on Friday October 21, 2011 @05:04PM (#3141697)
Battery life is pretty good with Gingerbread.

ICS will be able to run on any phone able to run Gingerbread.

Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by valnour on Friday October 21, 2011 @04:42PM (#3141597)
It's hard to read your post will all that FUD on it.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by andylei on Friday October 21, 2011 @04:37PM (#3141565)
i mean, if you look at old iphones, they're pretty laggy and jittery on newer versions of ios
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by rimantas on Friday October 21, 2011 @05:52PM (#3141880)
You mean specifically iPhone 3G with iOS 4.0 (which was fixed with 4.1)?
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by gergles on Friday October 21, 2011 @06:11PM (#3141941)
Doubtful, he probably means things like my (current-gen) iPod touch, which runs like molasses with iOS 5. Stutters, jumps, unresponsiveness far worse than any Android phone I ever used.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by CountSessine on Friday October 21, 2011 @06:54PM (#3142073)
There's something wrong with your iPod. Have it looked at. I have an old iPhone 3GS that runs IOS 5 more smoothly than my wife's Nexus S runs Gingerbread. And on my iPhone 4 (not 4S) IOS 5 is buttery-smooth - even a bit faster than IOS 4 was in some respects.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by falling on Friday October 21, 2011 @06:21PM (#3141977)
There is probably something wrong with your iPod. I'd take it to the Apple Store. iOS 5 works fine on a 3GS, and your iPod has iPhone 4-comparable hardware.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by Champer2 on Friday October 21, 2011 @07:24PM (#3142178)
The iPod touch (current gen) has 256MB of RAM to the iPhone4(S)'s 512MB. The iPod Touch (current gen) has a retina display which the iPhone 3GS doesn't have. These factors may have produced a difference in performance.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by chugger on Friday October 21, 2011 @07:06PM (#3142117)
he made that story up. he's full of it.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by anticregger on Friday October 21, 2011 @04:39PM (#3141578)
That's not the fucking issue here. The only issue is whether is if ICS is smooth and yes it is across the board. But not in apps that havent been updated to take advantage of the newly added HW acceleration yet.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by chugger on Friday October 21, 2011 @04:55PM (#3141661)
it is the issue. because it doesn't matter if you've got the fastest phone in the world if you can't use it because it's got spyware/malware/virus your phone's useless.
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by eco on Friday October 21, 2011 @06:01PM (#3141908)
Where are you getting this notion that spyware/malware/viruses are prolific on Android? I can assure you that they are certainly less common on Android than on desktop computers. The Android Market is certainly less curated than the Apple App Store but it's not like it's some haven for cyber criminals. Furthermore, the applications you install all have permissions listed making it much easier to safely install software on Android than it is on a computer and yet here we all are being plenty productive with those (when we aren't on Hacker News).
Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by chugger on Friday October 21, 2011 @06:57PM (#3142088)
Google is your friend.

Aug 24 2011: Android-targeted malware jumps 76% in Q2, McAfee says http://www.bgr.com/2011/08/24/android-targeted-malware-jumps...

Aug 01, 2011: Android Trojan records phone calls. CA security team finds more advanced Android malware http://www.networkworld.com/news/2011/080111-android-trojan....

Aug 15, 2011: A malicious Android app that disguises itself as Google's new social networking platform, Google+, is capable of stealing data, and answering and recording incoming phone calls http://www.scmagazineus.com/new-android-spyware-answers-inco...

Sep 20, 2011: Android bug lets attackers install malware without warning http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/09/20/google_android_vulne...

Aug 4, 2011: 8 Notorious Android Malware Attacks. Nearly a third of Android users will fall prey to mobile security threats this year. http://www.informationweek.com/news/security/mobile/23130025...

Re:After the iPhone 4S, Android just feels wrong by anticregger on Friday October 21, 2011 @04:40PM (#3141583)
Of all the tech blogs I read, thisismynext were the only ones who reported a laggy UI. Engadget and gizmodo reported the UI as very smooth. Next time get your fucking head out of apple's ass and take a look at reality.