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Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by halotrope on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:04PM (#31289595)
Meanwhile in Jerusalem

https://youtu.be/pDyMzz8HMIc

Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by freeflight on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:33PM (#31289822)
Kind of skeptical about how all the shots are only from night-drives, probably when traffic is the lowest.

Didn't Tesla release a somewhat similar video, showing a Tesla driving across the US?

Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by halotrope on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:42PM (#31289889)
Agreed. They plan roll out Robotaxis in Germany and Israel this year. We will have to wait for third parties to verify the performance. There is another Video from NY last year that had a bit more traffic.

https://youtu.be/50NPqEla0CQ

Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by anikan_vader on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:58PM (#31289983)
The car pulls out and immediately fails to yield to two pedestrians at a crosswalk at 0:54. One of the pedestrians is in the crosswalk.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by aeyes on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:36PM (#31290268)
It also has a traffic light so I guess this isn't a crosswalk where the car has to yield. The pedestrian isn't really in the crosswalk, there is a yellow dashed line.

Very confusing but I guess: Different countries, different rules.

1:44 is also confusing, no signs at all so the car should yield to the car coming from the right.

3:35 looks dangerous, pulling left into the scooter.

10:00 he says that it is very challenging to drive in Jerusalem and that you can drive everywhere if you can do it there. I haven't seen anything challenging up to this point in the video, all roads are clearly marked, no potholes, almost no traffic, lots of signs. This looks very easy to me.

Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by Hamuko on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:49PM (#31290353)
1:44 might have a yield sign behind the no entry sign. Looking at Google Maps, it might be 16 HaMatmid Alley, and in the 2011 Street View photos there appears to be a yield sign behind the no entry sign.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by Hamuko on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:14PM (#31290120)
The car did have the right of way though, as the crosswalk had a red light on. As to why one of the pedestrians decided to stand in middle of the road during a red light, I have no idea.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by robonerd on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:37PM (#31290271)
That might be the way it works in Israel, but it's not a safe way to drive even if the law permits it. In Washington state, every intersection is a crosswalk whether or not it's marked, and you have to stop for any pedestrian crossing an intersection whether or not the light says the pedestrian can be there.

I hope these car companies get local laws right. But it would be best if they did the safe thing even if local laws didn't require it.

Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by Hamuko on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:50PM (#31290360)
It's not a safe way to walk either, and I don't know where walking against a red light is legal.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by robonerd on Friday May 06, 2022 @07:20PM (#31290560)
Walking through a red-light is illegal and so is driving through a green light when somebody is improperly walking through the intersection. There's no contradiction here.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by zip1234 on Friday May 06, 2022 @08:41PM (#31291123)
In England it is legal as long as the walker determines it is safe to do so.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by colinmhayes on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:45PM (#31290326)
Just like a real person :)
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by faebi on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:33PM (#31290243)
It's nice to see a self driving car in European conditions. All the Tesla FSD videos feel like they lack some complexity and depth. I do wonder how Tesla would perform in these conditions.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by runetech on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:20PM (#31289719)
Wow. That was pretty convincing. Thanks for sharing.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by halotrope on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:39PM (#31289863)
Agreed. It should be kept in mind that Mobileye solution has not really seen a wide rollout and scrutiny yet. One can be optimistic considering that the CEO Amnon Shashua is known for a very careful and responsible conduct compared to e.g Tesla. This apparently let to them having a falling out because Tesla overpromised on the old stack selling it as “Autopilot” when it was L2 at best. Which resulted in them doing FSD from scratch after Mobileye cancelled the collaboration after a deathly accident. At least this seems to be the semi-official account of things.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by fastball on Friday May 06, 2022 @10:35PM (#31291704)
The levelling system in self-driving really needs to die.

If Autopilot is L2 at best how is the OC L3? What features does the Mercedes Drive Pilot solution have that AP does not?

Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by upbeat_general on Friday May 06, 2022 @10:50PM (#31291751)
LiDAR for one: current SOTA monocular depth estimation is pretty poor compared to even poor LiDAR
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by fastball on Sunday May 08, 2022 @10:11PM (#31309761)
That's a sensor not a feature.
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by sebmellen on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:31PM (#31289807)
אני משוכנע
Re:Mercedes-Benz says Level 3 self-driving option ready to roll by mtmail on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:49PM (#31290354)
Google translate: "I'm convinced"