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Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by imtringued on Thursday May 05, 2022 @06:32AM (#31271615)
I'm pretty sure Slaughterbots was trying to provoke people into building DIY loitering munitions to prove the video wrong. The drones will be expensive, low in capability, can be intercepted (the video simply postulated that they can't be shot down by uh snipers?) and 99% of the time they will be controlled by humans. After all, being wrong on the internet is the best way to get a correct response.

I am honestly more scared of chemical weapons and barrel bombs. You know, things that have actually been confirmed to have devastating impact in Syria.

Somehow the typical hacker news commenter is worried about very precise robotic hit men operating in large groups to be used for indiscriminate killing when WW2 weapons were already enough to wipe out entire cities. You're more likely to have died from the atomic bombs deployed in Nagasaki or Hiroshima than from some tiny plastic drone with a 5 minute flight time.

I mean think about a hypothetical nuclear weapon that kills everyone recognized via facial recognition in a 10 kilometer radius. Most bystanders aren't important enough to have their face on that database.

Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by ceejayoz on Thursday May 05, 2022 @06:50AM (#31271725)
> Most bystanders aren't important enough to have their face on that database.

If you have a drivers’ license or a passport, you’re in it.

> WW2 weapons were already enough to wipe out entire cities

Indiscriminately. Which gives you a big PR issue. Being able to kill only, say, every military-aged male in a city without touching anyone else is a bit different.

Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by asdff on Thursday May 05, 2022 @08:11AM (#31272326)
I don't think that would blow over any better for the international community. You'd basically be targeting college students and high schoolers.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by ceejayoz on Thursday May 05, 2022 @08:13AM (#31272345)
Then adjust the criteria to "people who match a face in the hacked database from their military ID system", if you prefer.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by sudosysgen on Thursday May 05, 2022 @12:16PM (#31275240)
What if they just start wearing a balaclava?
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by laverya on Thursday May 05, 2022 @12:17PM (#31275259)
Obviously people trying to hide their identity are evil and thus OK to target.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by sudosysgen on Thursday May 05, 2022 @01:49PM (#31276470)
Good luck dealing with balaclava scarecrows if you just target anyone wearing one.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by laverya on Thursday May 05, 2022 @05:05PM (#31278404)
So just target only the ones that are moving! As a side benefit, you get to make this [0] a reality.

But seriously though, there's a lot of heuristics that can be used for "is a target and not a dummy". Will they be perfect? No. But they don't need to be.

0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm83FTA89AY

Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by sangnoir on Thursday May 05, 2022 @12:47PM (#31275651)
Wearing a balaclava would bump the wearer to the highest priority.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by sudosysgen on Thursday May 05, 2022 @01:48PM (#31276450)
That doesn't work if everyone does it.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by laverya on Thursday May 05, 2022 @05:07PM (#31278430)
How many people are genuinely willing to wear something outside knowing that it will get them killed, and knowing that they would NOT be killed if they did not wear that piece of clothing?
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by tpoacher on Thursday May 05, 2022 @02:31PM (#31276912)
there is already research that can reliably identify individuals by their movement patterns
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by sudosysgen on Thursday May 05, 2022 @04:46PM (#31278202)
Yes, there is, but none that can reliably do so within 1-2 seconds from a drone going at a few hundred kph. I doubt that there ever will be, either.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by ceejayoz on Friday May 06, 2022 @06:17AM (#31283458)
The lack of imagination on things like this baffles me. It’s like the folks who dismissed early digital cameras because of the shitty image quality.

You couple the fast drones with slower surveillance ones at higher altitude to identify possible targets. Or pair them with local security cameras, or the victim’s cell phone pings.

Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by asdff on Saturday May 07, 2022 @03:39AM (#31292831)
Whose to say the gait databases that these things are pulling from can't be fed garbage though
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by tpoacher on Friday May 06, 2022 @05:38PM (#31289851)
True! It's a bit like thinking people will suddenly start needing more than 64kb RAM or something.
Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by Trouble_007 on Thursday May 05, 2022 @07:21AM (#31271949)
>can be intercepted (the video simply postulated that they can't be shot down by uh snipers?)<

search: >'bird of prey trained to take-down drones'< @DDG : <https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/?q='bird of prey trained to...>

Re:Swarming drones autonomously navigate a dense forest by YeGoblynQueenne on Thursday May 05, 2022 @10:23AM (#31273735)
Military drones are already used for assassinations. Making them "autonomous" is only the next step to that.

But, here's the thing. Current tech-level drones are already extremely lethal to civilians. Given the state of modern AI, including the poor abilities for facial recognition in real-world situations, sending "autonomous" weapons to take out targets in civilian areas will only increase the number of civilian victims.

Not to mention, assassinations, in the first place.

Edit: I get the gist of your comment- that it's already possible to kill (civilians or not) in horrible ways. Yes, but why do we need yet another way to do that, then? The more ways there are to commit wanton murder and destruction, the worse, surely?