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Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by sizediterable on Sunday May 01, 2022 @01:50AM (#31222550)
From https://fig.io/privacy:

> Inevitably, there will be users who, for whatever reason, don't want their usage of Fig to be personally tracked. Of course. It's your data and software on your device. You shouldn't even need a reason. We want to cater to these users. And we will. But unfortunately, we are so early on in the process of building Fig that we need to be able to speak to our users. De-anonymising telemetry for the time being while minimisng the events tracked enables us to do this in a non intrusive way. But it is of course not for everyone. Therefore, once we reach a critical mass of usage in the coming months, we will then anonymise all telemetry, making Fig more accessible.

It has been several months since this was written. Are they still collecting de-anonymized user data?

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by Cyph0n on Sunday May 01, 2022 @02:01AM (#31222597)
I just installed it. You are presented with an option to disable telemetry once setup is complete in the form of a CLI command (fig settings telemetry.disabled true). But, for some reason, you can't disable it during setup.

However, during setup, you need to "sign-up" by sharing your email - you can't skip this step as far as I could tell.

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by ushakov on Sunday May 01, 2022 @04:00AM (#31223051)
as far as i remember you couldn't actually disable telemetry

they still send a daily ping

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by mschrage on Sunday May 01, 2022 @04:27AM (#31223171)
This is incorrect. If you opt-out, no telemetry events are sent at all.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by ex_nihil on Sunday May 01, 2022 @07:05AM (#31223971)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27277819

> Telemetry: Fig has basic telemetry in order to help us make product decisions. We currently give the you option to opt out of all non-essential telemetry by running `fig settings app.disableTelemetry true`. This removes everything except for one daily ping. We use this ping to help us understand how many people were using Fig.

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by hdjjhhvvhga on Sunday May 01, 2022 @04:44AM (#31223261)
Have you checked this, i.e. checked your network traffic for 24 hours after installing and registering Fig?
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by noitpmeder on Sunday May 01, 2022 @07:09AM (#31223995)
mschrage (the author of the comment you're responding to) seems to have a personal affiliation with the project.

If you assume he's contributing here in good faith (my assumption) then I'd say it's safe to say that it does in fact disable telemetry.

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by metadat on Sunday May 01, 2022 @02:13AM (#31222647)
Can you enter [email protected]?
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by pilif on Sunday May 01, 2022 @03:43AM (#31222984)
You can, but unless you own that address you won’t be able to use the app as you’re expected to type a code sent to the provided address
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by Void_ on Sunday May 01, 2022 @02:28AM (#31222714)
Wouldn't `[email protected]` be a better testing email.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by 867-5309 on Sunday May 01, 2022 @02:45AM (#31222778)
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by jq-r on Sunday May 01, 2022 @04:30AM (#31223182)
I use [email protected]. So even they send you some activation link you just go there and click it. Very convenient page.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by mongol on Sunday May 01, 2022 @03:12AM (#31222866)
example.com is officially on a list of example domains that will never be allocated to real use.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by Voklen on Sunday May 01, 2022 @03:14AM (#31222873)
I usually use [email protected] or if that fails [email protected] or if even that fails [email protected]
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by Rygian on Sunday May 01, 2022 @04:21AM (#31223149)
That statement means that they have chosen, by design, to be unavailable in Europe.

In Europe you must be able to prove that your software was designed from the ground up with enough safeguards for user privacy, as opposed to considering privacy requirements as a bolted-on afterthought.

Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by greggsy on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:00AM (#31223339)
They would be able to argue that the data is anonymised.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by nvrspyx on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:32AM (#31223476)
Wouldn't it be hard to argue when it's explicitly stated that it's "de-anonymized"?
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by greggsy on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:41AM (#31223523)
Oh, lol. That’s just dumb and unnecessary.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by angio on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:30AM (#31223468)
They explicitly say the data is de-anonymised because otherwise they wouldn't be able to directly contact users.
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by einpoklum on Sunday May 01, 2022 @06:06AM (#31223655)
Remind me again why do they even need to send any telemetry, anywhere, ever?
Re:Fig (YC S20) – Adds IDE-style autocomplete to your existi... by j4yav on Sunday May 01, 2022 @05:07AM (#31223372)
Sounds strange, you can speak to your users even if you aren’t using telemetry.