That's definitely how it **ing worked, man. I came so close to missing so many damn flights before Uber came around, because I'd book a car the day before and it would just ghost me. I had to aim to get to the airport 4 hours early because half the time I had to reorder a fresh cab and hope for the best.

Cabs had a 45+ minute lead time in the evenings and at night too, when I could order them by phone at all. It was a joke. This was in Seattle/Bellevue, Washington, USA, FWIW

It was a big thing for competing cab companies to call each other and schedule bogus pick ups. So much of the time they just disregarded calls until the 3rd or 4th time you call back, then they finally send someone.

I wonder if some new player shouldn't enter the market and start making fake pings with Uber and Lyft. Just entirely fill their system during peak times thus preventing them from operating. Can't be too complicated. And this is just exact type of play their customers love about these companies.

Yeah, I used to drive Sea-Tac airport shuttles, and we routinely rescued people whose taxis just never arrived.

Yeah, my company paid the premium for car service because taxi dispatch was too unreliable.

You’ve clearly never called a cab pre-Uber, or you worked as a dispatcher.

Worse of all not only does the cab company often decide to not show up, if you cancel (such as calling another cab company that does show up or take a bus instead) you get yelled at and cursed to hell for letting them know you are canceling.

Everyone in the system is just an average joe, probably being paid less than they deserve. But the system was terrible and broken.

> You’ve clearly never called a cab pre-Uber

There might be some variation with things like geography, here.

Yes agreed. Some countries and cities had better taxi service than others. But one of beauties of early day Uber was that I was able to use the same app globally (in the US, Taiwan, and even Chiba) and it used my prexisting saved credit cards even! No fumbling for the local currency, registering a local payment method, or worrying if I am going to be scammed by the driver—just a consistent note global taxi hailing experience.

> That’s not how it worked

It's precisely how it worked everywhere I've lived. What you describe sounds like a low density suburb or smaller town. Yeah, social pressure in those situations still works.

The only time I've seen things work as you describe were small/vacation towns when I was visiting for a wedding or whatnot. The type of places where there are a dozen total cabs for the entire county.

Any major (call it NFL tier) city scheduling a pickup was a laughable joke. You quickly learn when you move to such places the first time you schedule a cab how totally unreliable it is.

Even the overly chatty cabbies would be happy to tell you how much of a scam it was, and go on to describe how every driver but them does X, Y, and Z to avoid taking such calls. This is the sole reason Uber got its foothold in my household.

> It's precisely how it worked everywhere I've lived.

Have you lived in NYC? It's not how it worked here prior to Uber. You could call one of the car services and schedule a pickup ahead of time and they'd show up. Of course it wasn't totally necessary, because you could call Northside or Arecibo at 4am and they'd come pick you up at your house within 5 minutes.

Outside of NYC, yeah it was a mess. I remember being at datacenters in New Jersey in the middle of the night to fix some server that went down when I was at the beginning of my career and you'd have to call a bunch of car services to find anyone working at 4am.

Uber didn't win because Yellow Cabs we're a better deal or more consistent.

It's exactly how it worked. Half the time they would either not show up or show up 30+ minutes late.

> That’s not how it worked...

In my experience that's exactly how it worked.

it was announced the other day that Curb is integrating their fleet with Uber's, so calling an Uber can get you a cab