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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by dudeinjapan on Sunday April 17, 2022 @04:59AM (#31059538)
The Barbary pirates routinely castrated their slaves, precluding them from doing much DNA mixing.
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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by barry-cotter on Sunday April 17, 2022 @05:31AM (#31059629)
Source? Castration had very high mortality and I’m not aware of any historical slave trade where it was routinely done.
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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by dudeinjapan on Sunday April 17, 2022 @05:55AM (#31059728)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Musl...

"Castration: A fair proportion of male slaves were imported as eunuchs... in practice, emasculation was frequent"

(and yes, it did also carry a high rate of death.)

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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by biorach on Sunday April 17, 2022 @08:29AM (#31060387)
that text doesn't appear on that page. and that's a very generalised statement covering a long period of time and wide area.

My understanding was that adults were rarely castrated, rather boys from certain regions were targeted (I believe boys from modern Sudan were preferred by the Ottomans)

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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by ttyprintk on Sunday April 17, 2022 @10:08AM (#31060918)
It appears on my version of that page.

But, this is such a well-documented aspect of Ottoman slavery that it doesn’t depend on any particular Wikipedia page.

This was known to be full-on castration.

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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by hef19898 on Sunday April 17, 2022 @02:30PM (#31063041)
The Barbary pirates weren't Ottomans so. They traded with them and, if memory serves well, operated under Ottoman sponsorship at times.
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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by dudeinjapan on Friday April 22, 2022 @10:47AM (#31122221)
Then they knew how their customers expected their goods delivered!
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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by mda on Sunday April 17, 2022 @03:44PM (#31063756)
Rulers of Barbary pirates, famous ex corsair Ottoman chief admiral Barbaros Hayreddin, his brother Oruc were Ottoman.
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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by mda on Sunday April 17, 2022 @03:29PM (#31063594)
This statement is doubtful. There were castrated slaves (Eunuchs) but were they mostly sold by Barbary pirates? Not really.
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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by zeristor on Sunday April 17, 2022 @05:04AM (#31059552)
Yikes.

But didn’t they also take female slaves too, some being concubines?

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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by dudeinjapan on Sunday April 17, 2022 @06:03AM (#31059769)
Yes, certainly, they raided European coastal villages. But AFAIK the majority of captives would have come from captured merchant ships, which were exclusively men. The pirates weren't so into keeping accurate records.
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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by ransom1538 on Sunday April 17, 2022 @07:08AM (#31060022)
There are volumes of books on it.

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51hXkmBB-YL.jpg

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Re:Barbary Pirates and English Slaves (2017) by swayvil on Sunday April 17, 2022 @10:49AM (#31061222)
Do something similar to their brain and you'd have a ... Mentat?

It opens up so much possibility. Modified humans as household/industrial appliances.

Tomorrow's XBox might be your genetically tweaked second cousin.

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