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Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by lqet on Monday March 28, 2022 @04:54PM (#30835447)
The emperor makes a joke at the cost of the peasant's mother - that she was in Rome at some point and was impregnated by the emperor's father. The peasant's clever answer implies that his own (peasant) father had sex with the emperor's mother and that the emperor is therefore the son of a peasant.
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by slim on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @02:34AM (#30839504)
I think the emperors joke was that he himself impregnated the peasants mother not his father. because if it was his father, that would make the peasant his brother and would make the matter serious with regards to the claim for the trone. My understanding is at that time peasants would marry and have children at age 13 and emperors having sex with thousands of women was not morally inadequate
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by Balero on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @05:38AM (#30840543)
> that would make the peasant his brother and would make the matter serious with regards to the claim for the trone.

This is not how Roman succession worked. Especially at this time. This is a joke about the first Emperor Augusts. His biological father, whilst being pretty important politically, was not the reason he was able to turn himself into Emperor. A very basic explanation was that he got much of his power base from Julius Ceaser, who had adopted him, when he died.

So his biological father having any other children (which he in fact did have, an elder sister, who's own Son entered politics) would not matter at all. As the relationship with his maternal Uncle was where he drew his power.

This is all simplified, and I am no expert. But it is all much more complicated, and interesting (and always has been) than some simple rule of eldest son gets the throne.

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by muro on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @07:09AM (#30841073)
Augustus was famous for pushing for better morals, he even banished her daughter for that.
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by muro on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @03:15AM (#30852293)
His daughter, sorry
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by lqet on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @03:59AM (#30839998)
Indeed, this makes even more sense than my explanation!
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by WheelsAtLarge on Monday March 28, 2022 @08:05PM (#30837082)
Thanks for the explanation. This is one of the few times when the explanation makes the joke much funnier.

Looks like making a joke at the expense of people-in-power has always been funny.

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by balaji1 on Monday March 28, 2022 @11:04PM (#30838274)
True. In general, jokes are almost always at the expense of someone. Also from the article:

> here are two ways a joke can fail: it can be too bland or too offensive.

In comedy shows, I find most jokes that get laughs/laugh-tracks are just offensive to someone.

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by noduerme on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @03:42AM (#30839888)
It's all fun and games until someone gets slapped ;)
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by ant6n on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @05:39AM (#30840552)
In what sort of barbaric culture would somebody get slapped because of telling a joke?
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by sdoering on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @07:27AM (#30841183)
That's a good one. Feigning ignorance while simultaneously putting salt in the cut.
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by noduerme on Wednesday March 30, 2022 @04:06AM (#30852541)
One where murder on live TV was looked at askance?
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by tremon on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @06:19AM (#30840774)
The Oscars?
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by adventured on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @09:03AM (#30841976)
Hollywood
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by jll29 on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @12:32AM (#30838780)
Does anyone have the original version in Latin?

I want to check if it's funny. (The only Latin that ever made me laugh - cry, in fact - was 'Romani eunt domus' in Monty Python's "Life of Brian"...)

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by ithkuil on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @03:14AM (#30839722)
Ok this is not a joke but it may make you laugh too: https://youtu.be/PbEKIW3pUUk
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by jan_Inkepa on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @09:41AM (#30842406)
http://www.antiquitatem.com/en/a-joke-2000-years-old-augustu... has a bunch of recorded versions.

> Soleo in Augusto magis mirari quos pertulit iocos quam ipse quos protulit, qui maior est patientiae quam facundiae laus, maxime cum aequanimiter aliqua etiam iocis mordaciora pertulerit. Cuiusdam provincialis iocus asper innotuit. Intraverat Romam simillimus Caesari et in se omnium ora converterat. Augustus perduci ad se hominem iussit, visumque hoc modo interrogavit: Dic mihi, adolescens, fuit aliquando mater tua Romae? Negavit ille, nec contentus adiecit: Sed pater meus saepe.

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by pmoriarty on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @11:34AM (#30843966)
Google translates this as:

In August I am always more surprised at those jokes he bore than those he himself uttered, who has greater praise for patience than for eloquence, especially when he bore with equanimity even some of the more biting jokes. A rough joke of a provincial became known. He had entered Rome, most like Caesar, and had turned the mouths of all on him. Augustus ordered the man to be brought to him, and it seemed as if he asked in this manner: Tell me, young man, was your mother at any time in Rome? He denied it, nor was content with it, but added, "But my father often."

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by jan_Inkepa on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @12:20PM (#30844585)
Google latin translate was awful like two years ago, but has gotten ridiculously good (compared to what one would except of a mostly dead language). I haven't learned out by virtue of what effort, but someone clearly has put good work into getting it working. I assume it involves digitisation of medieval latin manuscripts (of which there are many). I wonder how it does/could do at Sanskrit, where the surviving corpus is truly immense.
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by babyshake on Monday March 28, 2022 @08:28PM (#30837251)
> that she was in Rome at some point and was impregnated by the emperor's father.

I guess it depends on the age difference between the man and the emperor but I assumed the emperor was referring to himself and the joke was about the emperor's wife or partner.

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by naniwaduni on Monday March 28, 2022 @10:03PM (#30837909)
It has to be the emperor's mother for them to be closely related.
Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by dmurray on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @04:14AM (#30840071)
You're as closely related to your child as to your sibling: they share half your DNA in either case.

(This joke is clearly about the emperor's mother, though).

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by iso1210 on Monday March 28, 2022 @05:13PM (#30835644)
> clever answer

Well that depends on what happens next, but ending up being thrown to the lions would take the shine of the "clever" part

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by corpMaverick on Monday March 28, 2022 @06:25PM (#30836346)
yeah,yeah.

But don't loose sight that this humor was a way of people to get their frustrations with the emperor out and let the little guy win.

Re:Jokes that have made people laugh for thousands of years by tonguez on Monday March 28, 2022 @05:59PM (#30836141)
thanks for pointing that out!