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Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by dominotw on Monday March 28, 2022 @11:24AM (#30831482)
How does one go about this?

You interview your boss in the interview process and get a feel for what type of preson he is and then go with that gut feeling yes/no

when your current boss leaves and you get a new boss that you don't like. Quit and go back to step 1.

Does anyone operate like this? doesn't seem very practical or foolproof.

Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by Msw242 on Monday March 28, 2022 @11:31AM (#30831569)
Smaller companies are more culturally homogeneous. With smaller companies, managers are usually a reflection of the company's cultural values.

If you accept the above as true, then you can start to reach out to team members at the company and ask them what the work environment is like.

If the work environment lines up with your values, then you'll probably be fine, even when the hiring manager moves on to greener pastures.

Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by dominotw on Monday March 28, 2022 @12:09PM (#30832025)
> ask them what the work environment is like.

I've been asked this when i interviewed ppl but i never gave them the truth and I've never gotten any honest truth when i was on the other side also.

Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by giantg2 on Monday March 28, 2022 @01:06PM (#30832772)
I find there's generally a hidden truth in how they answer it, but not in the answer itself. Stuff like hesitation, over the top praise, indirect answers, etc. If it sounds like they're telling me what I want to hear (or sounds like a sales pitch), then the BS meter starts clicking.
Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by Msw242 on Monday March 28, 2022 @10:45PM (#30838158)
Reach out to people who aren't interviewing you

People in the interview are under scrutiny and don't want to be responsible for driving away candidates

Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by wildmanx on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @05:26AM (#30840485)
Anybody you reach out to, no matter hiring responsibility or not, has the interest of getting good people into the company, irrespective of how happy they themselves are at the workplace.

Really good people are hard to come by in this market (need to be not just smart but also easy to work with, communicate etc), so you better don't express dissatisfaction, otherwise they go to a competitor.

It's really hard to get honest opinions before accepting an offer. You have mostly gut feeling to go by, maybe join a team for a coffee break, this kind of thing. A direct question "what do you like least about your job?" could work too (it's kinda "what's your biggest weakness?" in reverse), but often times that's also just used to upsell or BS you, e.g. "the food here is too good, I'm getting fat". But you can try to read between the lines of course.

Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by Msw242 on Tuesday March 29, 2022 @06:56PM (#30849391)
This doesn't match my experience, but your mileage might vary
Re:Maybe you should do less 'work' by giantg2 on Monday March 28, 2022 @08:51PM (#30837428)
Not for me. I get a new boss on average every 9 months, just because they rotate/transfer so frequently.