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Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by ravenstine on Saturday March 26, 2022 @01:25AM (#30809469)
I kept under-cooking burger patties to the point where they were still raw in the middle and thought "f** it" and ate them anyway. Then I moved on to eating straight raw meat for the novelty of it. I'm not sure that I'd eat raw pork, but supposedly today's regulations have mostly eliminated the possibility of trichinosis. Otherwise, I've found raw meat to be way less hazardous than I was lead to believe. I don't advocate for it, and I at least like a good sear on my steak. My risk tolerance is much less than that of many people, for better or for worse.
Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by thehappypm on Saturday March 26, 2022 @01:40AM (#30809521)
Rare burgers are really risky.

Steaks are OK because there’s not usually bacteria within a cut of meat (at least not a rotten one). Ground beef is all surface area.

Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by stickfigure on Saturday March 26, 2022 @02:09AM (#30809661)
> Rare burgers are really risky.

How risky? Compare it to other risks we are commonly undertake, like driving. If you can't quantify risk, you're not providing a useful comment.

Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by thehappypm on Saturday March 26, 2022 @06:10AM (#30810593)
The CDC recommends ground beef cooked to 160F, which is well above “rare” temperature (around 130F). So, you’re going against the food safety guidelines. I’d say that introduces risk (though hard to quantify exactly).

https://www.cdc.gov/foodsafety/communication/bbq-iq.html

Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by stickfigure on Sunday March 27, 2022 @01:14AM (#30817887)
That same page says steaks should go to 145F which is pretty far into medium and will get you looked at funny in most reputable steakhouses.

So let's go back to: If you don't quantify risk, you're not providing a useful comment. That applies to the CDC too.

Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by thehappypm on Monday March 28, 2022 @02:57PM (#30834200)
Good luck quantifying real world risks. What’s the risk of getting sick from a rare burger? Well, it’s the probability of a bad bacteria being present, then it not being killed by the cooking, and then actually taking root in your body.. good luck getting a number
Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by jazzyjackson on Saturday March 26, 2022 @02:25AM (#30809731)
Depends on how long the ground beef is left out. If you grind the steak right before you eat it there's not much time for bacteria to multiply.
Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by thehappypm on Saturday March 26, 2022 @06:08AM (#30810579)
That’s correct! Most of us don’t do that, but for those who do it’s a much safer option.
Re:Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Im... by jazzyjackson on Saturday March 26, 2022 @02:27AM (#30809739)
> My risk tolerance is much less than that of many people

If you mean you can tolerate more risk than others, that would be a higher risk tolerance.