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Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by im_nullable on Friday March 25, 2022 @05:00PM (#30807000)
Apple will soon require 3rd party app stores to remit 27% of all revenue.
Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by GekkePrutser on Friday March 25, 2022 @08:08PM (#30808152)
How can they? If you can sideload they have no way to enforce this.
Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by Spivak on Friday March 25, 2022 @08:51PM (#30808359)
“Not via the App Store” != “Without Apple Approval”

Side loading will likely still require a business agreement with Apple and “App Review” to get a cert that allows your app to run.

Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by GekkePrutser on Saturday March 26, 2022 @08:02AM (#30811111)
That would really defeat the whole purpose... I'm sure this is not the intention of this law.

However it is indeed possible that Apple would weasel such a requirement through the loopholes, yes.

Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by aaomidi on Saturday March 26, 2022 @12:43PM (#30813337)
The more they try to block this, the heavier the regulations are going to be on them.

At some point Apple might see itself being split apart because of its constant and well documented abuse of it's status in the market.

Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by olliej on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:32PM (#30816949)
What market abuse? And what do you split up? Apple is a hardware company, all the software they write is purely to make the hardware they sell attractive to consumers.
Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by emptysongglass on Sunday March 27, 2022 @10:21AM (#30820458)
Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by spacemanmatt on Sunday March 27, 2022 @09:05AM (#30819909)
> all the software they write is purely to make the hardware they sell attractive to consumers.

This view of Apple as a pure-platform company does not comport with reality

Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by dmitrygr on Saturday March 26, 2022 @08:19PM (#30816563)
Into what and what, exactly?
Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by aaomidi on Sunday March 27, 2022 @12:14PM (#30821423)
You could imagine the hardware manufacturing/os component of apple being split from the services part of apple.
Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by olliej on Saturday March 26, 2022 @09:30PM (#30816936)
Who should pay for the cost of development then? Apple has always been very clear, the store commission is for use of their IP. Any other store can undercut apple because they don’t have to pay any of the development costs for the platform.

There is no weaseling, it is very simple: the commission covers the licensing. The alternative is saying that apple must develop software, give it away for free, then let random stores make a profit selling software that they contributed nothing to.

It is exactly equivalent to the EU saying that a company should be free to use GPL software however they like, including selling at a profit, without providing the sources.

Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by Tozen on Saturday March 26, 2022 @01:02PM (#30813461)
I agree. Expect Apple to come up with some kind of contingency plan, so they can maximize profits and control, at the expense of their users.
Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by olliej on Friday March 25, 2022 @05:17PM (#30807134)
If not the stores themselves, then presumably the apps will have to pay.

I’d also hope that the store are required to enforce the same security protections as the main App Store.

I don’t want buying an app to now come with the risk of uncancellable subscriptions, gross invasion of privacy, malware, etc

Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by Apocryphon on Friday March 25, 2022 @05:51PM (#30807367)
Presumably, they could just treat iOS like macOS, where there already is a notarization system that covers apps distributed outside of the Mac App store.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/security/notarizin...

Also, people forget that iOS itself has many security protections built into the platform itself that go beyond App Store review.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30199125

Re:Apple forced to allow sideloading and 3rd-party app store... by metadat on Friday March 25, 2022 @06:23PM (#30807575)