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Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by dustingetz on Thursday March 24, 2022 @09:32AM (#30789495)
This is fundamentally about not being undercut by competition which means the costs a business can absorb are fundamentally relative to competitors' costs (especially so in high margin SAAS businesses). If everyone has to offer support and there's no way to cheat, the market will find a way to meet demand efficiently under new circumstances
Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by Msw242 on Thursday March 24, 2022 @10:09AM (#30789975)
At a higher price level!

It's important to write out and acknowledge that people cost money.

Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by dustingetz on Thursday March 24, 2022 @10:42AM (#30790541)
This is an assumption that a cost increase must certainly be reflected in increased price. Companies price based on customer perceived value, not costs. Particularly in venture funded SAAS, where the profit margin between cost and price is large. And companies have made little effort to invest in live support; if such an investment was necessary we would expect to see live support costs streamline as the industry of live support sees sudden increase in demand and investment.
Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by falcolas on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:07AM (#30790929)
People cost money, yes. But when you're distributing that cost across thousands (or tens of thousands) of customers every year, those costs are a pittance. Single digit dollars per year on the outside.

Not exactly a bank breaker for a vast majority of businesses.

Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by stevenhuang on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:19AM (#30791125)
> costs are a pittance

That is completely dependent on the support burden at the margins of an additional customer. If your business is high-touch, your business won't scale.

Which is perhaps the problem. Companies should not scale beyond what they ought to (when additional scaling hurts those at the margins).

Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by chii on Thursday March 24, 2022 @10:22AM (#30790177)
exactly!

I think the right should be there - but the cost must also be associated with it. For example, there should be a plan for which you pay an upfront cost and get a human.

Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by Msw242 on Thursday March 24, 2022 @01:20PM (#30792802)
HN logic:

A) my skillset deserves $300k/y in comp B) I'm not paying another $10/m for my bank just because they'll have to have a human spend a few hours a year supporting me

Re:Tell HN: There needs to be a “right to speak with a human” by falcolas on Thursday March 24, 2022 @11:09AM (#30790968)
Cool. What, about $5 a year? Totally worth it.