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Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by happymellon on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @03:51AM (#30776076)
You can resell your paper, or email ticket already.

How does blockchain make it interesting?

Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by exdsq on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @11:27AM (#30779453)
Let’s you know the ticket is authentic because you can see it is part of the set of tickets the band/venue initially created, because of atomic transactions I can guarantee if I send you money I’ll get a ticket in return (NFTs are just another form of currency at the end of a day), because they’re unique I know no one else can own it even though it’s all public so I won’t have issues at the door, because they allow metadata the venue can confirm if they’re resellable or not on the NFT itself, a venue can get a % of resale value back allowing more second-hand markets to exist, among various other possibilities.
Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by 0xRolex on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @04:33AM (#30776297)
No need to expose yourself, possible anonimity and most important one, the absolute lack of need of a third party which is the thing that most find intresting about blockchains usecases.
Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by usrbinbash on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @04:55AM (#30776429)
Except the most common way to do blockchain transactions are broker services which do require user information. This, combined with the fact that the blockchain is an immutable public ledger (meaning any transaction can be traced back indefinitely), and there goes anonymity.
Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by 0xRolex on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @10:07AM (#30778593)
By brokers you mean Centralised Exchanges ? If yes I agree it's an aberation as we've with recently with Russia's problems people getting banned from it because these exchanges are bounded to obey country's laws. Everyone should leave CEXs to get on DEXs and learn about DeFi but as cool as it can be it's everything but userfriendly and as it is it'll never make it to public adoption. About tracing transactions as long as you don't dox yourself everything people can have about a wallet being yours is suspicions and there's always services to make it shady like tornadocash or anonimity oriented blockchains
Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by usrbinbash on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @11:47AM (#30779707)
> Everyone should leave CEXs to get on DEXs and learn about DeFi

That is not going to happen, for the same reasons why most people don't dig their own wells, learn carpentry to make their own furniture, or weave their own cloth and learn how to tailor clothes.

Every complex enough system will always have centralized points, aka. gatekeepers. That is how human society self-organises.

Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by 0xRolex on Thursday March 24, 2022 @04:43AM (#30787459)
> That is not going to happen IT's actually being worked on, it's something sometimes refered as a "layer 3" even if it's not realy one when you look at what are layers 1 and 2 but the goal of this logical "layer" is to make abstraction of everything, make crosschain needs and moves absolutely transparent. It's one big point for mass adoption and great thinkers and workers know that and are already working on that.

>Every complex enough system will always have centralized points, aka. gatekeepers. That's where the problem is. 3rd partys have been introduced for security reasons but are nowadays far from it and that's what some people are actually fighting for. An autonomous system where the only pseudo 3rd party is an impartial public registry

Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by usrbinbash on Thursday March 24, 2022 @06:41AM (#30788126)
> it's something sometimes refered as a "layer 3"

Again: Most people will not use a more complex solution when a simpler one exists, regardless of whether the simpler solution requires a central authority. Example: People used to use IRC, which is a really easy to use system. Then along came chatrooms, and then centralized messenger systems. Sure, some people still use IRC, but they are not the majority.

> That's where the problem is. 3rd partys have been introduced for security reasons but are nowadays far from it and that's what some people are actually fighting for.

Which systems are "far from it"? The financial system? I get my paycheck every month, all payment processes work fine. The government systems? Elections in my country work flawlessly, tallied and protected by central authorities. The power grid? I haven't had an outage in 4 years, and the last one lasted all of 10 minutes. Public Transport in my country is affordable, well maintained and usually on time.

So it seems to me that centralized systems work just fine in the vast majority of cases.

Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by MrMan on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @02:29PM (#30781676)
any society constrained by time and physical limits will tend towards this I think.
Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by boomlinde on Wednesday March 23, 2022 @12:46PM (#30780442)
> No need to expose yourself, possible anonimity and most important one

That is an advantage if you're going to engage in behavior any reasonable person would despise you for.

> the absolute lack of need of a third party

If you're scalping tickets, you are the third party.

Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by 0xRolex on Thursday March 24, 2022 @04:31AM (#30787410)
Anonimity and privacy on internet are a right and you don't need to do shady stuff to enjoy them and outside of the immediate risk caused by doxing oneself when having a heavily valued crypto/nft portfolio I agree that it's not always needed. It still should be an option though as when selling valuable stuff p2p some protection is always appreciated.

I don't really get the part on how selling something you own p2p makes you a third party and I don't care about the 2nd hand tickets market, I'm only intrested in a safe decentralized p2p market

Re:Web3 is centralized and inefficient by boomlinde on Saturday March 26, 2022 @06:43AM (#30810719)
I'm obviously not making a point against anonymity in general, so spare me the spiel.

> I don't really get the part on how selling something you own p2p makes you a third party and I don't care about the 2nd hand tickets market, I'm only intrested in a safe decentralized p2p market

The peers in this transaction are the event organizer and the person who ends up with a ticket. The ticket scalper is third party that "facilitates" the transaction at a cost. Essentially a broker that no one asked for.