As a computer person, I really could care less when the sunshine is. I prefer my days to be exactly 24 hours. Not 24 hours +/- 1 hour.

Also, where I live there's a max of 16 hours of sunlight, and a min of 8 and a half. In the summer, it doesn't matter what the clock says, it's going to be bright when you wake up and bright when you go to sleep; so much sun. In the winter, it's most likely dark when you get up and dark when you go to bed, not enough sun that fiddling with the clocks is going to be really helpful anyway. Maybe there's a little more twilight in the morning the week after Halloween, and then it's back to morning commute in the dark. And it's pretty chilly, so while sure, I don't want to bike in the dark, I also don't want to bike in the cold, either, even if there is sun.

Why? I would say a large number of computer people owls, meaning they get up late and go to bed late. Permanent DST means you have to get up one hour earlier forever. Seems absolutely terrible to me.

It's also stupid from an astronomical point of view.

I've thought about this, being a night owl myself. I vastly prefer daylight saving time, but doesn't that mean I'm just getting up an hour earlier? Which I should hate, because I hate getting up early.

It's made me realize that my being a night owl is less about the actual time and more about how I'm spending it in relation to the rest of society. There's just something about being awake when others aren't that's preferable.

Absolutely. Fuck mornings. I'd rather not be awake before noon in the first place.

Also, some states would have a real problem with permanent standard time. Maine, in particular really belongs in the Atlantic time zone, as standard time puts sunset way too early most of the year. Having the sun down by 4:00 sucks.

Doesn’t that mean you should prefer standard time? DST moves the clock forwards, so the sun won’t be as high at, say, 7am.

My after work bike rides basically end in the fall, so I'm happy for the change.

Not for me. I prefer timekeeping libraries to not have to be changed. Ever. If they have to, should be simplified. If simifying, it should be in a way that doesn't cause grammatical issues.

Which this does, because now DST is now the standard time.

Nothing about timekeeping is simple, with or without this change. Not only do some regions already not observe DST (even within the same state/region); some switch to/from DST at different times of year (and this date changes from year to year).

For a timekeeping library (which likely uses a system-level source of data / the IANA tz database) this shouldn't have any effect.

Never in my career is there more chaos than around any type of change having to do with timekeeping.

It shouldn't be a big deal. Inevitably though, it always seems to bring the bugs out of the woodwork.

Ditto.

Speak for yourself, you certainly don't speak on my behalf.