Re:Russia, Belarus squarely in 'default territory' on billio...
by unmole on Thursday March 10, 2022 @08:26PM
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If it was, wouldn't it have been a better idea to load up on foreign debt just before launching the invasion? I haven't seen anything to indicate anything of the sort happened.
Re:Russia, Belarus squarely in 'default territory' on billio...
by dilyevsky on Thursday March 10, 2022 @10:43PM
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Putin only told his chief spy (and others on so called security council) three days in advance on Monday. I doubt anyone in finance/banking knew anything before wedn night if not thu morning
Re:Russia, Belarus squarely in 'default territory' on billio...
by supergirl on Friday March 11, 2022 @02:21AM
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well Russia has the money for now, but the West seized it or just refuses to accept any payments from Russia. so it'll only be in "default" for whoever doesn't want to get paid. pretty sure they will pay Chinese investors, if there are any.
Re:Russia, Belarus squarely in 'default territory' on billio...
by idiotsecant on Thursday March 10, 2022 @07:49PM
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If I get arrested for stealing a bunch of money from my neighbor and manage to put it into my local bank before I do, my bank might be justifiably concerned that I won't be able to make my mortgage after the police seize my stolen goods.
Re:Russia, Belarus squarely in 'default territory' on billio...
by vba616 on Thursday March 10, 2022 @11:21PM
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Possession is 9/10ths of the law.
Is it any more unfair that Russia can't access those reserves than that foreigners can't access their Russian assets?
As long as things are frozen, they are in the hands of whoever has physical custody. If things remain as they are then the whole world has given their Russian financial assets back to Russia for free, haven't they?
Russia is huge, they should have lots of things within their borders. Plus, those borders are expanding!
Re:Russia, Belarus squarely in 'default territory' on billio...
by chii on Friday March 11, 2022 @01:03AM
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Freezing is slightly different to usurping.
Freezing is where your assets are still yours in name, but is unable to spend it. There may be conditions where it is unfrozen.
Usurping is when they no longer belong to you, and there's no recourse. I would be wary of normalising usurping assets by western Govts, rather than merely just freezing.
Re:Russia, Belarus squarely in 'default territory' on billio...
by chii on Friday March 11, 2022 @11:16AM
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i would be against usurpment - freezing is the most that should be allowed. Otherwise, it's too easy to justify theft, and next time it might not be some despotic dictator, but citizens.
Laugh out loud at the idea that the bank can say “you’re defaulting because i refuse to acknowledge a payment from your account”.
Is it any more unfair that Russia can't access those reserves than that foreigners can't access their Russian assets?
As long as things are frozen, they are in the hands of whoever has physical custody. If things remain as they are then the whole world has given their Russian financial assets back to Russia for free, haven't they?
Russia is huge, they should have lots of things within their borders. Plus, those borders are expanding!
Freezing is where your assets are still yours in name, but is unable to spend it. There may be conditions where it is unfrozen.
Usurping is when they no longer belong to you, and there's no recourse. I would be wary of normalising usurping assets by western Govts, rather than merely just freezing.
Well not the first domino. One of the middle dominoes.