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Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by drujensen on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:09AM (#30611417)
As former amateur physicist, who read a couple books over the years :)

To me it's quite simple. We haven't detected what is causing the waves that the particle of light is riding on. The particle of light is like a surf board, riding a wave and will always hit the shore in the interference pattern. Einstein and Bohr were both right.

What has been the wrong assumption over the years is that the light is generating the waves. It seems obvious to me that something else outside of the light (that we haven't detected yet) is generating the waves.

My amateur physicist guess is the waves are generated by the clock cycles of the computer simulation we are in. All computers require a clock to function. Why would our universe be any different?

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by zuminator on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:42AM (#30611588)
Not saying you're wrong in the slightest, but why would our universe be like a computer? When our understanding of the universe was very primitive we thought everything was alive (animism). Then a little more technology and we thought the universe was like an orrery or a clock (mechanism)[0]. Then a little more and we think it was like a computer (turingism?) Occasionally you'll hear it's like a hologram, a simulation (what's it simulating?), a graph [1], or some other faddish concept.

We just like to make metaphors to put this thing in a box that we can't understand. But perhaps at its most fundamental level it will defy comprehension or even definition.

[0] In the philosophical sense; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mechanism_(philosophy)

[1] https://syncedreview.com/2020/04/17/stephen-wolfram-the-path...

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by Dylan16807 on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:47AM (#30611936)
What's the difference between a clock and a computer? And there's no difference between computer and computer simulation.

Being a hologram is something I see as a significantly different type of comment. That's about how a sphere of space is mathematically equivalent to a flat 2d shell using equivalent but warped physics. It doesn't change anything about the nature of the universe except sort of the number of dimensions. And it's orthogonal to those ideas.

I'm not sure how to categorize the graph thing but it's not widespread at all.

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by Zamicol on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:30AM (#30611853)
> why would our universe be like a computer?

Because information is fundamental.

Computers just so happen to be our best tools in the information domain.

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by po on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @03:27AM (#30612172)
> The particle of light is like a surf board, riding a wave and will always hit the shore in the interference pattern.

This is exactly Bohm's Pilot Wave theory that the article talks about. It has been debunked to some extent but I believe the debunking is still somewhat controversial for proponents. There are neat macro-level simulations of it called "Walking Droplets" if you search for them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_wave_theory

https://www.pml.unc.edu/walking-drops

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by BatteryMountain on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:42AM (#30611918)
But then every point in space has it's own clock, so you'd have gazzilions of tiny clocks instead of one big global clock that tickets for the entire universe/reality.

Or perhaphs if we do have one big global clock, your distance from it warps/distorts other parts of the reality at each point in space? Maybe there is a limit to how far this heartbeat travels (edge of the universe)?

You can also then ask, at what speed or clock cycle is reality "rendering" and is it the same speed everywhere? It would seem each point renders itself and there would be no big global processor doing the rendering.

Then finally if you really want to dig deep, ask why is it being rendered to begin with. Might need some psychedelics for this one instead of math.

What if there are no clocks nor any points, what if matter is just a condensate of frequencies/sound/harmonics - that is, there is a "great piano player" and the "sound" it emits is the universe, just a side effect. If it stops playing, the universe disappears/collapses into nothingness.

note: A point here referring to a point in a massive 3d grid of points.

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by goldorak on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @06:34AM (#30613388)
That's why time slows down near heavy objects, there is more calculus to be done and don't want to drop frames.
Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by CorrectHorseBat on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:14AM (#30611753)
>All computers require a clock to function. Why would our universe be any different?

Clocks are not required at all, even for digital computers. They only make designing computers a lot simpler.

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by Zamicol on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:33AM (#30611873)
Clockless computers don't have a global clock but they still have components that "tick".
Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by Dylan16807 on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @02:54AM (#30611974)
Depending on the design, no more than abacus has components that "tick". And I'd never say an abacus requires a clock to function.

If even a single bit gets hung up in a straightforward clockless design, everything else waits for it.

None of that is really visible to something inside the computer, though. The OP is describing calculation steps, not clock cycles.

Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by allisdust on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:16AM (#30611449)
Assuming that it is true, what is the clock/cpu speed?
Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by dylan604 on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:26AM (#30611508)
The released speed, or the overclocked speed? Let's face it, if the universe isn't overclocked, then we've got some serious hacking to do.
Re:It’s time to admit quantum theory has reached a dead end by ntr-- on Wednesday March 09, 2022 @01:27AM (#30611512)
I would assume: 1 / 1 t_P (Planck time) ≈ 1.8549×10^43 Hz (hertz)