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Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by tyjen on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:37AM (#30555368)
This comment chain made me envision a potentially terrible future direction.

Imagine a future where websites force people to consent to allowing them use your device to mine cryptocurrency while you use its services or browse its content instead of ads.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by bluely on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:41AM (#30556265)
Interesting tidbit: a few years back I encountered a Minecraft server with a dynamic map on a website. After checking it out for about 5 minutes I noticed some weird CPU usage so I asked the server admins.

They apparently to came to an agreement with the players where, to support the server, a browser miner would be ran on the dynamic map website.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by ganzuul on Friday March 04, 2022 @11:18AM (#30556749)
I would like to get chunks off of a community grid like Nunet... There is a mod that adds LODs these days, CPU-intensive, so with a nice view the real estate does become a little valuable doesn't it? :)
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by Nextgrid on Friday March 04, 2022 @11:23AM (#30556812)
I'd prefer that to ads.

With crypto mining I can buy my way out of it by having powerful hardware, or - in a hypothetical future where this practice is mainstream - offloading the mining to a separate machine as to not affect my mobile device's CPU. Crypto miners have a defined price: give me an average CPU's hashrate while you stay on the page and that's it - so if you pay that you are good.

With ads, buying your way out is impossible - by attempting to do so you just become an even bigger target. There is no define price for it that you can pay to "opt out".

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by horsawlarway on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:16PM (#30557489)
>With ads, buying your way out is impossible

I disagree. It's just not in its final form yet. But take a peek:

Hulu: 6.99 with ads, 12.99 without

Youtube: Free with ads, 11.99 without (or bundled with another google paid service, like Fi)

HBO: 9.99 with ads, 14.99 without

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It's coming - if you have money to throw at the problem, you can already buy your way out of a lot of advertising.

If you have time and a bit of technical savvy - setting up a pihole or ublock origin incurs costs on time, but also remove ads.

At least with ads the cost is fairly clear, and it's definite. With mining... it's mostly malicious and will consume as much CPU as it can. That actually taxes me more for having a nice CPU.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by diggernet on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:27PM (#30557643)
You can buy your way out of ads in some places, but you can never buy your way out of the invasive tracking.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by Invictus0 on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:50AM (#30555576)
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by hutzlibu on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:17AM (#30555967)
"Imagine a future where websites force people to consent "

I imagine a future, where people just do not vist sites, where they do not agree to the conditions.

But like others pointed out, those sites exist already since quite a while.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by matheusmoreira on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:05AM (#30564789)
How do you even know what the terms and conditions are without visiting the site? This whole "by using the site you agree" thing is completely stupid.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by korse on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:17AM (#30555975)
Isn't that the Brave browser?
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by vmception on Friday March 04, 2022 @11:03AM (#30556554)
No Brave doesn't do that, its default behavior doesnt use crypto, its optional behavior theoretically lets you earn bat but not by processing cycles
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by matheusmoreira on Saturday March 05, 2022 @12:50AM (#30564705)
Brave has its Basic Attention Token that they give users in exchange for sending notifications with ads in them. They literally pay users for their attention. Doesn't consume any CPU.

I think all advertising is inherently bad but this is the least bad form of advertising I've ever seen. Not only are users compensated, they can actually turn off the ads in the settings and simply use the browser normally, and it has a built-in adblocker even on mobile.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by sam0x17 on Friday March 04, 2022 @12:47PM (#30557913)
This was a reality a few years ago (in particular, there was a very easy to use Monero cryptominer that ran in the browser) and then every major ad blocker and many major browser distributions blocked crypto mining and it's basically become impractical for the most part. PirateBay did it for a while but I believe they have stopped, you really don't see it anymore.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by matthewaveryusa on Friday March 04, 2022 @09:49AM (#30555550)
Frankly I would pick that over ads any day.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by thehappypm on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:09AM (#30555874)
Can you mine crypto in the browser? I know there are some native hooks, presumably JavaScript is never going to give a good hash rate, but it would be interesting if sites starting dropping JS tags that silently mined crypto in the background.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by kmeisthax on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:11AM (#30555902)
WASM Monero miners were a big problem years ago.
Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by matheusmoreira on Saturday March 05, 2022 @01:04AM (#30564783)
Certainly.

https://github.com/jtgrassie/xmr-wasm

Individually hash rate will be quite poor but if you make a mining pool out of all your users everything changes. Monero mining pools even have rules prohibiting that.

https://minexmr.com/miningguide

> Botnet / Web Mining Policy

> Sadly it happens that Botnets often run cryptominers on infected PCs.

> minexmr does not support botnets, web miners or any other illegal activities.

> Any account suspected of botnet mining or web mining will be banned.

Re:Cybercriminals who breached Nvidia issue one of the most ... by causi on Friday March 04, 2022 @10:41AM (#30556261)
Oh certainly. Back in 2018 I found my favorite site to read online comics was turning my phone into a hot plate before I blocked JS.