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Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by edgyquant on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:13PM (#30523216)
He’s the Stephen King of Tolkien-rip off fantasy. He churns them out, sure, but I don’t consider the quality all that high.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by lolinder on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:27PM (#30523294)
> Tolkien-rip off fantasy

You're free to dislike the books, but this is an extremely unfair characterization. Sanderson's books bear very little resemblance to Tolkien's beyond the genre and the elaborate nature of the worldbuilding.

Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by edgyquant on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:36PM (#30523348)
It’s not unfair. The genre he writes is a genre of Tolkien ripoffs of which he is the most prolific.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by space_fountain on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:52PM (#30523445)
There are Tolkien rip offs, but Tolkien didn’t invent fantasy, and unlike a lot of fantasy authors Sanderson doesn’t include elements like dwarfs, or elves or really anything that Tolkien came up with as far as I can tell. Are you maybe confusing him with someone else?
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by lolinder on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:49PM (#30523429)
If you're including Game of Thrones and Wheel of Time, then I guess Sanderson broadly falls into that same category. I'd hardly label any of them "rip-offs", though, especially given that there are books out there blatantly ripping off Tolkien right down to elves, dwarves and halflings.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by bradly on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @11:35PM (#30523790)
I’ve only read the Mistborn series, but I didn’t find it all similar to Tolkien–not in style or themes.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by justinpombrio on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @12:52AM (#30524211)
By "Tolkien ripoff", do you mean anything beyond "fantasy novel"?
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by TylerE on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:27PM (#30523298)
Except King can actually write dialog that isn't 100% cringe.

Sanderson's refusal to have characters ever actually curse is just infuriating.

Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by vxNsr on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @02:12AM (#30524648)
Your need for swearing in dialog for it to sound real says a lot more about you than it does about the author.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by hannofcart on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:33PM (#30523331)
He uses "storming" as a proxy. :)
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by TylerE on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:46PM (#30523411)
Yes, and it reads like something a prudish 60 year old would write for 5 year olds.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by buscoquadnary on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @11:13PM (#30523604)
I actually have always appreciated it because I have taken it as a level of world building beyond what is obvious.

Most all profanity in our language can in some way be traced back to a religious context. It would the make sense that on other worlds with totally different religious backgrounds they would use different cursing.

In fact his usage of this concept is so subtle that you can detect what characters are from the world and which ones aren't by whether they use damnation as a noun or an adjective.

Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by sjansen on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @11:44PM (#30523837)
Goramit! You've reminded me Firefly was killed too ruttin quickly.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by pigscantfly on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @01:20AM (#30524363)
This is exactly why Mat was so badly butchered at the end of the Wheel of Time: Sanderson doesn't have any experience of carousing to draw on, and prudish is spot on.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by citrus1330 on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @11:23PM (#30523692)
Swearing is cringe.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by dannyfraser on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @07:32AM (#30526611)
Agreed. I read the Mistborn books a few years ago and just found them very... sanitised, especially compared to other prominent fantasy novels by the likes of Scott Lynch or the brilliantly sweary Joe Abercrombie.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by edgyquant on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:34PM (#30523341)
I wasn’t saying King and his are the same quality, just that the speed of writing is similar. With that said King writes his fair share of cringe dialogue.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by trey-jones on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @12:24AM (#30524067)
I have only ever read the Wheel of Time by Sanderson, but the dialogue was enough to convince me I never needed to bother with him again. Meanwhile, I find King to be probably the best American English writer that I've encountered. By that I'm really only talking about his use of the language, and what a pleasure it is to read. And of course, dialogue is a part of that. This is all subjective of course - that's just how I feel about it.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by lmm on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @12:46AM (#30524184)
Sanderson didn't write much of the Wheel of Time, only the very end after the (main) author died.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by trey-jones on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @07:58AM (#30526815)
I really hate to be a guy that's like "I know", but come on, I obviously know that. The dialogue was good from Jordan, bad from Sanderson. In my opinion. Thus my statements above.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by lmm on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @05:34PM (#30534255)
Even if you know that, what you wrote is misleading to anyone else reading who doesn't know the details.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by TylerE on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @01:27AM (#30524398)
I mean, his name is only on 2,700 pages of it.
Re:Four Secret Novels by Brandon Sanderson by lmm on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @01:57AM (#30524549)
Which sounds like a lot, but the full series is over 10,000.