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Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by Thaxll on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @03:17PM (#30519396)
Reminds me that "military grade x.y.z" is usually vastly inferior to what you get from tech company for the general public.
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by colechristensen on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @03:28PM (#30519558)
This is not always the case.

Military grade means things like “works for outside air temperatures between -40 and 120 F” and “will still work being vibrated to hell for decades”.

On the other hand modern tech is like “my cat knocked my Apple Watch on the floor and shattered the screen” and things are generally extremely fragile.

They’re also old. You want things that work for decades, not UIs that change every few months.

Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by bombcar on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:21PM (#30520170)
This is what people don't get - military grade is not James Bond spy gear that can do a million things in a small package - military grade is something that still has a semblance of working after being beat to shit in storage for twenty years, manhandled by a bunch of gorillas who don't give a damn about it, and blown up and shot at.
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by colechristensen on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @08:39PM (#30522578)
A lot of what makes military grade what it is boils down to “we specified every goddamn thing down to how you dot your i’s so soldiers won’t get screwed over by the lowest bidder cutting corners”.

Yes, there is a military specification for (generic) pop tarts which covers how much filling, what’s in it, and how much frosting is applied.

Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by bombcar on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @10:15PM (#30523237)
Those specifications come in very important when suddenly you have everyone making pop tarts - or IBM making machine guns.
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by tbihl on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @11:01PM (#30523505)
Or crashed into an underwater mountain without any interruption to the nuclear power plant.
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by rurp on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @05:28PM (#30520924)
God I would love to be able to buy consumer tech that has a stable UI and can survive the impact of a light breeze. Unfortunately I suspect military purchase prices are a wee bit outside of my price range.
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by seventhtiger on Wednesday March 02, 2022 @06:52AM (#30526292)
That means the only consumer electronics that can honestly be called military grade are the Nokia cellphone and the Nintendo GameBoy.
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by f1refly on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:23PM (#30520199)
I once read a comment chain on this website that went like

> I generally feel like military equipment is of higher quality and will last longer

> I've been involved in military contracts for a long time and the stuff they buy is generally consumer grade, but they have some standard and forced manufacturer for every tiny screw used on the vehicle, driving cost up tenfold without any gain. I don't see the appeal

> so you're telling me there is a standard

And that day I understood why overstock military stuff is so attractive to many buyers: It doesn't change. If you read good receptions about a military backpack or some kind of tooling, you can be dead sure that if you decide to get it, it will be just as nice as the thing in the reports. Because they make sure every pice will be exactly the same, no surprises.

Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by LorenPechtel on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:55PM (#30520579)
Yup. Military ammo cans on many of the nearby peaks--they hold the logbooks and survive the conditions. One peak that doesn't have an ammo can--every time I've been up there I've found the logbook in a different container.
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by navbaker on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @03:48PM (#30519796)
One of my favorite TV tropes is hearing "they're using military grade encryption!!!"
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by f1refly on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:26PM (#30520228)
I'm still waiting for the movie where the computer character exclaims "Oh no, they appear to have employed a crypto nerd and given him free reign for the last decade! Their systems are so hardened we couldn't get in even if they where to help us!"
Re:Please, delete all new places since the start of war 23th... by LorenPechtel on Tuesday March 01, 2022 @04:53PM (#30520548)
Military grade = beefy. It doesn't mean high tech.