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Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by MrDisposable on Sunday February 27, 2022 @08:49AM (#30488387)
Russia is committing suicide. And I hope it's not a physical suicide.

In any case, there's no coming back from this. My earlier prognosis of being trapped in a slavic North Korea technologically enslaved to China is starting to sound like an optimistic outcome.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by TestSIM1 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @09:44AM (#30488893)
Well, tomorrow we'll witness the economical suicide.

Sberbank - 1$ = 110,49₽

Tinkoff - 1$ = 153,75₽

And the markets are not even opened.

For the reference, before Putin started full-scale war against the Ukraine:

1$ = 78.66₽ (23rd Feb)

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by notreallyserio on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:48AM (#30489471)
What do you mean when you say "Sberbank - 1$ = 110,49₽" and "Tinkoff - 1$ = 153,75₽"? Are these different exchange rates for different banks?
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by TestSIM1 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:14AM (#30489708)
Yes. You can purchase dollars in exchange of Rubles.

Previous week it was aprox. 80 Rubles per U.S. Dollar.

Now due to the White House's statement that there will be sanctions against the Russia's central bank (they shouldn't able to use the reserves to keep Ruble stable) it is predicted that Ruble will collapse tomorrow.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by notreallyserio on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:17AM (#30489730)
It seems like too large a difference between banks, wouldn't this lead to arbitrage?
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by svnt on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:24AM (#30489798)
I believe currently only one of these banks can enable you to get your money out of Russia — thus the difference.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by Andrew_nenakhov on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:13AM (#30489697)
He means that the local currency is set to depreciate by half in a span of a week. And the bottom might be far far lower.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by notreallyserio on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:43AM (#30489997)
So these figures are from different times as well as different banks? If so then cool, that was the missing piece.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by TestSIM1 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:59AM (#30490167)
different banks? - Yes.

different times - No.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by notreallyserio on Sunday February 27, 2022 @12:48PM (#30490618)
How extremely odd. Wonder why the values haven't converged? Do people inside the country not have access to this information? What's stopping someone from buying 150 rubles for a dollar and then buying $1.40ish for those same 150 rubles?
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by TestSIM1 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @01:36PM (#30491114)
I should have perhaps mentioned in the original post:

1$ = 152,3₽ (buying 1 US dollar)

1$ = 85,7₽ (selling 1 US dollar).

Just because you pay 152₽ to buy 1$ doesn't mean you can sell it at the same price. At least banks won't buy it.

According to banki.ru the best price for selling US dollar now is 94,00₽.

Hope that clarifies it.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by notreallyserio on Sunday February 27, 2022 @01:45PM (#30491215)
I see, the friction is in doing the reverse transaction. I guess you could find a buyer outside the traditional markets to complete the arbitrage transactions but that's going to be risky. Thanks for the clarification.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by Andrew_nenakhov on Sunday February 27, 2022 @04:45PM (#30492873)
In times of such turmoil the spread between buy and sell price becomes so vast that it'll shield the exchangers from such schemes.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by grishka on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:30AM (#30489306)
It's far from the first time rouble has plummeted. Just a reminder that 10 years ago, before this whole Crimea thing, 1$ was around 30₽. In the 90s and early 00s rouble was unstable enough that cellular carriers billed in dollars and many stores had prices in "у.е." that were also dollars just with a different name.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by helge9210 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:05AM (#30489060)
> slavic North Korea

Russian Federation is mostly not slavic. Secession of federation regions (as it happened with USSR) is the next step on the path of the least resistance.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by morpheos137 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:09AM (#30489095)
You do realise that Russians are Slavs, correct?
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by goblin89 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:18AM (#30489181)
There is an argument that stereotypical ethnic Russians are Finno-Ugric people.

Moreover, if you go almost anywhere in Siberia, 50% or more of the locals will be of ethnic minorities native to the area (you may describe their appearance as Asian). More in rural areas. Many regions are dual language, Russian + indigenous. This includes the largest administrative region on Earth that is not a country.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by retrac on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:52AM (#30489500)
> ethnic stereotypical Russians are Finno-Ugric people

They speak Russian, a Slavic language. The culture is clearly linked and descended from the Old Slavonic people.

I'd love to know about the thinking as I'm scratching my head here. This is the first I've heard this claim and I am half Finnish, quarter Russian by ethnicity. My grandparents certainly did not think they were from the same ethnic group.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by helge9210 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:18AM (#30489737)
> They speak Russian, a Slavic language

Modern Russian is a little bit older than hundred years.

"Pre-reform" language was significantly different in script, vocabulary and grammar and wasn't older than hundred years itself. Before Napoleonic war 1812 nobility was speaking French, ruling family was German and serfs were speaking Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian or one of the Turkic dialects.

The only slavic parts remaining in the modern Russian is Cyrillic script and words borrowed from Ukrainian.

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by muzika on Sunday February 27, 2022 @06:41PM (#30494072)
Not exactly true. The Bible was translated into Russian in 1820 so we have a pretty good idea of what Russian language was like back then (99% similar to today’s language). There were a few minor changes to the script, but nothing crazy.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by goblin89 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:54AM (#30489527)
The first argument is theoretical and controversial. The second point is not.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by messe on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:10AM (#30489664)
What part of Russian being a Slavic language is controversial?
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by svnt on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:27AM (#30489828)
Poster is not saying that — they are answering the immediate parent’s question, not analyzing his arguments, and instead analyzing the two arguments of the grandparent post.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by helge9210 on Sunday February 27, 2022 @10:50AM (#30489482)
The phrase "Grattez le Russe, et vous verrez un Tartare" (Scratch a Russian and you'll find a Tatar) wasn't invented yesterday.

"Slavic Russians" are mostly Belarusians (Smolensk Region) or forcibly assimilated Ukrainians (Bryansk, Kursk, Voronezh) or not even assimilated Ukrainians in Kuban (they still speak Ukrainian, but have their own name for it).

Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by Koshkin on Sunday February 27, 2022 @12:01PM (#30490181)
Russians are just one of dozens of nationalities in Russian Federation.
Re:Putin puts Russia’s nuclear deterrent forces on alert by hourislate on Sunday February 27, 2022 @11:29AM (#30489848)
They may be considered Slavs but the reality is many of them are more Mongolian and very different from Slavs. Even their language shows signs of Mongolian influence. The Mongolians could not pronounce certain sounds properly and the Russian language exhibits these pronunciations.