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Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by mrits on Friday February 18, 2022 @08:55AM (#30385671)
Gaming on Linux is as bad as it's been in a long time and is only going to get worst because of anti-cheat systems.

Visual Studio is on more platforms than Windows and not even the preferred IDE of most devs on Windows unless they are doing .NET.

FreeBSD does not excel on the server side. I don't know any companies that even use it and I spent the last decade consulting with hundreds of companies.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by wang_li on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:32AM (#30387007)
>FreeBSD does not excel on the server side. I don't know any companies that even use it and I spent the last decade consulting with hundreds of companies.

Examples come to mind: Whatsapp and Hotmail used to use it before being acquired by companies with their own tech stacks. Netflix's streaming service is based on it. Pfsense was based on it at one time, not sure if it still is. Juniper uses it. If you go check out the FreeBSD Foundation donations pages you'll see Facebook, Microsoft, Google, Netflix, and others.

Reality is that on the server and in the data center all I need from an OS is a near posix userland and wired network and storage drivers.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by mekster on Friday February 18, 2022 @05:30PM (#30391996)
I always wondered how FreeBSD foundation is run.

https://freebsdfoundation.org/about-us/about-the-foundation/...

They have so little income with those sponsors and multiple times that expense and who is covering the cost?

The total income is like one guy's salary and is that all those big names are paying as sponsors?

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by soupbowl on Friday February 18, 2022 @06:43PM (#30392741)
I am an avid fan and user of FreeBSD, l have wondered the same thing myself over the years.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by noirbot on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:19AM (#30385931)
I'm sure it depends on the games you want to play - competitive games where anti-cheat is a thing, sure, but if you're ideologically against having kernel level anti-cheat then that's not that Linux gaming is bad, it's just that gaming as a whole is bad.

Most single-player stuff I've tried has worked fine on Linux with either Lutris + Wine or Steam + Proton. The only games that haven't are super small indie stuff where I just assume they're coded a little poorly in some way.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by jmnicolas on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:06AM (#30385780)
> Visual Studio is on more platforms than Windows

No, Visual Studio for Macs is a rebranded Mono thing, it has nothing to do with the Windows Visual Studio. There's no VS for Linux.

Of course MS had to complicate things by naming their electron editor Visual Studio Code...

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by pjmlp on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:31AM (#30386986)
Nope, Visual Studio for Mac started as a rebranded Mono thing after Xamarin acquisition.

Since then, the amount of plugins shared with Visual Studio has increased, which is a reason why Microsoft started pushing to write them in C# instead of COM.

Currently it is being rewritten, and should be mostly completly unrelated to Mono Develop by .NET 7 release.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by breakfastduck on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:32AM (#30386136)
This comment is wrong on so many levels.

But to tackle the main one, gaming on Linux is in the best position it's ever been in. It's not getting 'worse' due to anti cheat, in fact the steamdeck and valve are actively bringing compatibility to linux for those things.

What can you possibly be basing your claim on there? Are you aware of proton?

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by gundamdoubleO on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:25AM (#30386031)
You're kidding right? Linux gaming compatibility has been near ideal for me for the past year and we already know the anti-cheat situation is at least being worked thanks to vendors like Valve. I haven't boot into Windows for a long time for gaming. The only real exceptions being Microsoft exclusives or multiplayer EGS titles.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by headhuntermdk on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:34AM (#30386156)
I'm guessing you haven't heard of Netflix then

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-epyc-cpus-netflix-band...

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by mrits on Friday February 18, 2022 @09:58AM (#30386531)
The widely known use cases for FreeBSD doesn't have much to do with it "excelling" as a server OS.
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by Shared404 on Friday February 18, 2022 @10:13AM (#30386732)
Where does FreeBSD excel then, because last time I checked all the widely known use cases were split about 50/50 serving and routing, with a side of Playstation.

Re: Linux gaming: Sorry, I couldn't hear you over the sound of the MCC playing on my Linux box. And Ori. And Stardew, RoR2, Everspace, XCOM2, SWTOR, Hades, DST, Hollow Knight, FTL, Terraria, Human Fall Flat, Portal 1/2, and a variety of other games.

As far as anticheat is concerned, that's actively being worked on by Valve and the largest stake holders.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by mrits on Friday February 18, 2022 @12:40PM (#30388663)
Now list the games that you can't play
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by Shared404 on Friday February 18, 2022 @12:43PM (#30388707)
Literally none that I've tried have given me problems.

But to the working games, let me add: Overwatch, League of Legends, Anything from GBA/GB/NES/SNES/DS/OtherRetroSystems, Starcraft. Oh, and Minecraft of course.

I'm sure I can come up with more.

Edit: One steam library checking later - and I'll note, this is stuff that I've actually played on Linux (and is also filtered by names I think people would recognize): Arma 3, Blitzkrieg 2, Pit People, Castle Crashers, BattleBlock Theater, Unturned, Invisible Inc., Baldurs Gate, Undertale, Speedrunners, Dota 2, Gary's Mod, Everspace, Raft, AoE 3.

This makes up the VAST majority of my steam library, none of which was purchased checking for Linux compatibility.

It's one thing to say that a specific game you want doesn't work, and quite another to say it in general doesn't work.

Edit again: Rocket League. That's it. That's the only one that I know of issues with, and I don't know if it even still has issues - I stopped playing when it required an Epic account.

Oh hey, lookie there: https://www.protondb.com/app/252950 . Sounds like that works too.

Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by trasz on Friday February 18, 2022 @02:11PM (#30389860)
You could (to some extent) say the same thing about FreeBSD: https://github.com/shkhln/linuxulator-steam-utils/wiki/Compa...
Re:From macOS to FreeBSD by NexRebular on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:46PM (#30390850)
There's also Proton port but have no idea on how it works nowadays.

https://www.freshports.org/emulators/wine-proton/