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Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by distrill on Thursday February 17, 2022 @03:55PM (#30378538)
FWIW, I'm not sure if any main stream politicians are arguing today that there is no climate change. I could be wrong, but most of what I hear is a question of how much is human caused/accelerated, rather than whether it's happening at all.

There are some obvious exceptions like people pandering with "record low today, how about that global warming libs", but as far as I can tell this isn't the official position of any political office.

Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by mmmpop on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:00PM (#30378602)
>> most of what I hear is a question of how much is human caused/accelerated, rather than whether it's happening at all.

I feel like that's last decade's news.

Many people I hear now are just fed up of the hypocrites and would as soon watch it all melt/burn/explode rather than let smug folk like Kerry be the "Climate Czar" while tooling around the globe on his Airstream.

Greta has a point when she starts raving about the climate change conferences where each of the attendees all flew in on their private jets. It's pretty shameful.

Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by stjohnswarts on Friday February 18, 2022 @03:32AM (#30383398)
What were the going to do travel by sailboat for weeks? Some of the most important/powerful people in the world? They aren't used to zoom so flying it is.
Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by mikestew on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:06PM (#30378680)
but most of what I hear is a question of how much is human caused/accelerated

That's just another form of denialism. "Climate change is a hoax, I don't have to change my behavior." is little different from "Climate change is real, but I'm not convinced it human-caused, so I don't have to change my behavior."

Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by asoneth on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:44PM (#30379093)
I suspect the next stage will be to admit that it's real and was caused by humans, but argue that it's too late/expensive to do anything about it. (And therefore I don't have to change my behavior.)
Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by jandrese on Thursday February 17, 2022 @05:21PM (#30379477)
https://www.americanprogress.org/article/climate-deniers-117...

Climate Change denial is alive and well in the US. In some areas it is considered a political liability to acknowledge climate change.

Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by cryptoz on Thursday February 17, 2022 @03:59PM (#30378586)
"FWIW", the last president declared that climate change was a hoax invented by China to make the US weaker. I don't know about "official position of any political office" but "climate change is a hoax" (or similar) is a common position on one half of the US political divide.
Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by dylan604 on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:20PM (#30378832)
I'm still a big fan of making all elected officials wear NASCAR inspired suits with the patches of all of their corporate sponsors so we know who's actually talking when the elected person's mouth moves.
Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by mmmpop on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:01PM (#30378614)
You can say his name, it's not like we're going to cause him to appear if we say his name 3 times.
Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by mhh__ on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:10PM (#30378712)
You do tend to get Downvoted when you say it.

Depending on the thread I think it's either people annoyed that they're seeing his name at all, and people who don't like seeing their guy getting criticized, but either way the result is the same. HN does generally swing much righter than the rest of the internet, too.

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Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by ska on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:38PM (#30379026)
Perhaps the down votes were just because you called someone out for a perfectly fine phrasing? Referring to him differently wouldn't add any value.
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Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by ska on Thursday February 17, 2022 @07:03PM (#30380528)
If the poster has said "he-who-will-not-be-named", I'd be there right with you and say it was silly. But they just did not do that, that is something you have made happen in your head.

"former president" is perfectly fine. As is "last president", or "trump", or whatever. I think the point wasn't about the specific person who had said those things so much about general level of political discourse in US around this subject...

Re:2022 Sea Level Rise Technical Report by distrill on Thursday February 17, 2022 @04:43PM (#30379081)
Yes, that's an example of the obvious pandering that I left room for.