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Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by andrepd on Sunday February 13, 2022 @06:44PM (#30326788)
> The country with the most extensive historical records is France, where nearly 7,600 fatal attacks were documented from 1200 to 1920.[1][2] There are few historical records or modern cases of wolf attacks in North America. In the half-century up to 2002, there were eight fatal attacks in Europe and Russia, three in North America, and more than 200 in south Asia.[3]

Wolf attacks are a nearly irrelevant problem. Older generations are irrationally/disproportionately afraid of wolf attacks.

Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by adrian_b on Monday February 14, 2022 @06:39AM (#30330847)
Even in the presence of so-called historical records of wolf attacks, it can be very difficult to assess how many of them are true.

There are indeed many known cases when rabid wolves have attacked humans, but obviously there are far less such cases than the attacks due to rabid dogs or even rabid foxes, because there are much more dogs than wolves.

In the past, there have also been many cases when humans have died due to other causes, mainly due to cold, then wolves have eaten the dead bodies and when they were found the death has been wrongly attributed to wolves.

I have grown in an Eastern European country, with much more wolves than in any Western European country.

Nevertheless, at least during the last century, there has been known absolutely no case of a human attacked by wolves, with the exception of attacks due to solitary rabid wolves, which could be fatal when not treated immediately.

Of course there were a very large number of cases of sheep or other domestic animals which were eaten by wolves.

On the other hand, bears or wild boars will not hesitate to attack humans in certain circumstances, so they belong to a completely different group of animals from this point of view.

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Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by dang on Sunday February 13, 2022 @09:49PM (#30327897)
I'm sure you have good reason to feel strongly about this, but attacking another user is not allowed here, and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't post like this again. Also, please just don't post in the flamewar style to begin with. We want curious conversation here—not commenters at one another's throats.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by pvaldes on Sunday February 13, 2022 @07:14PM (#30327031)
> imagine you love animals so much you decide to dedicate your life to breeding sheeps ... Every morning you wake up to the mutilated corpses of your little sheeps.

Nice melodrama.

I will say it again knowing that people don't want the truth and is not ready for the truth:

https://revistajaraysedal.es/wp-content/uploads/tres-perros-...

Most of this attacks are by dogs, not by wolves

By feral or by domestic dogs. The only responsible of this attacks is the shepherd, that don't feed their dogs and allow them to roam free to attack the cattle of other people. This common offenders include the Patou also. And we all pay for their loses.

Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by User23 on Sunday February 13, 2022 @07:41PM (#30327186)
It’s unsurprising that dog attacks outnumber wolf attacks after wolves have been exterminated. That doesn’t really tell us anything about the danger prevalent wolves would present.
Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by wwtrv on Monday February 14, 2022 @05:43AM (#30330484)
The wolf population in Italy is relatively large (compared to other similar countries) and quite spread geographically yet there hasn’t been a single recorded attack on people since at least WW2.

Edit: I was wrong, there has actually been one attack in January this year (the person was able to escape unharmed ), however the likelihood still seems to be extremely low.

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Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by dang on Sunday February 13, 2022 @09:50PM (#30327901)
Would you please stop posting in the flamewar style to HN? You've included a snarky swipe in several different comments you posted to this thread. Regardless of how you feel about wolves, that's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by User23 on Sunday February 13, 2022 @08:30PM (#30327481)
The Iberian wolf has been extirpated from most of Spain. Of course it’s not responsible for many attacks anymore. You may not be stupid, but this is a question of history, not biology. The present rate of attacks by the survivors of a nearly exterminated population tells us absolutely nothing about the historical rate of attacks that motivated the depopulation. Likewise it tells us nothing about what the rate of attacks would be if wolves were permitted to breed without interference.

As for your second point, of course when government pays for something it gets more of it.

Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by pvaldes on Sunday February 13, 2022 @07:12PM (#30327011)
People killed by wolves aka dogs: maybe thousands if we include dog attacks

People saved by wolves aka dogs: countless.

Re:The once-extinct aurochs may soon roam Europe again by PicassoCTs on Sunday February 13, 2022 @07:33PM (#30327138)
The older generation was also "irrationally" afraid of pandemics. Turns out- they were right. wulvs are no threat in the summer when they can easy migrate onwards into deer rich territory.

Story changes, when all the easily hunted deer is gone and a harsh winter comes. Once the hunt success without retaliation is there - it all goes south fast.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wolf_attacks