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Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by viraptor on Friday February 11, 2022 @07:56AM (#30300879)
I've done some migrations and there's no perfect solution. Currently I'm split between netlify and vercel. The downsides I know for each:

- Netlify doesn't support Range headers which means you can't host clickonce installers for windows apps there

- Vercel doesn't support IPv6 which really is table stakes these days

- S3 + CloudFront are very low-level and the bandwidth is expensive

- CloudFlare supports targeted harassment so dropped for moral reasons

Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by cute_boi on Friday February 11, 2022 @08:42AM (#30301347)
Can you please explicate your last point?

I don't know about first two but S3 or CloudFront is from Amazon which certainly have too many blemishes. Also, AFAIK Cloudflare is an infrastructure provider so, I wonder why would ethics come here.

Are we going to blame Google for making a browser that is used for hundreds of immoral things?

The only reason I think one will disdain over Cloudflare is due to monopoly. And, many argue they do some DDOS attack, but I have never seen any modicum of evidence.

Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by viraptor on Friday February 11, 2022 @06:26PM (#30308251)
They will go to the court to prevent revealing the identity and suing people who run websites organising persistent harassment, then keep hosting the website with that knowledge, like here: https://twitter.com/stealthygeek/status/1485731083534667779 (CW and all that)

Google browser is not in the same situation because the abusers are not direct, paying customers of Google and Google is not fighting to both keep them and hide their identity.

I understand why CF would want to keep their privacy position. But once they know about the abuse and don't drop those customers - they support the abuse.

Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by hunter2_ on Friday February 11, 2022 @10:19AM (#30302410)
What are the practical implications of not supporting IPv6? Does it make for longer loading times on devices that only natively have IPv6 which I believe includes most cellular devices?
Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by viraptor on Friday February 11, 2022 @06:55PM (#30308486)
Honestly not that many practical ones. It does improve the behaviour on ipv6 devices, but not significantly. I admit that for me it's more of a "we know it's happening, so I'd like to support companies not dragging their feet" position. It will hopefully come at some point: https://github.com/vercel/community/discussions/47
Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by perplex on Friday February 11, 2022 @11:33AM (#30303425)
CloudFront is only more expensive for the first 400GB. Netlify's bandwidth is $0.20/GB after the 400GB mark compared to CloudFront's $0.085/GB.
Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by johnnypangs on Friday February 11, 2022 @08:43AM (#30301355)
Hey do you have any more information on cloudflare supporting targeted harassment? I had t heard of it.
Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by viraptor on Friday February 11, 2022 @06:50PM (#30308444)
Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by opendomain on Friday February 11, 2022 @08:38AM (#30301304)
can anyone explain "CloudFlare supports targeted harassment"?
Re:Migrating from Netlify to Cloudflare Workers Sites for 2x... by viraptor on Friday February 11, 2022 @06:50PM (#30308446)