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Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by mbesto on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @03:28PM (#30264156)
> Fivethirtyeight had Clinton at 88% less than a month out from election day

And the way statistics work, a 90% forecast is truly a 90% forecast - they weren't wrong with this. It's just people think 99% chance of winning basically means "they won". But that's not how it works. So the idea that these numbers are misinformation is incorrect, it's that media is using a metric that the average person has trouble comprehending.

Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by double_nan on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @04:54PM (#30265328)
> it's that media is using a metric that the average person has trouble comprehending.

Isn’t that a clear case of disinformation?

Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by mbesto on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @05:36PM (#30265838)
We're talking about metrics with objective definitions that are taught in schools around the country, not headlines like "The President is cancelling his trip to Africa because he hates black people". I don't know, seems like a huge difference to me...
Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by ineedasername on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @06:26PM (#30266348)
No. If the media reports that the average salary is $50k/year that is not disinformation even if a lot of people will misinterpret it as meaning "most people make $50k/year" simply because they don't understand that an average is a measure of central tendency, not distribution.

Something like this only rises to the level of disinformation if the media (or whoever) deliberately presents an accurate piece of data in a way that it knows will not be understood.

If metrics that average people don't understand was disinformation than 90% of my job would be disseminating disinformation. It's not. Instead, a large part of my job is explaining the metrics.

Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by shadowgovt on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @05:10PM (#30265537)
The public being too ignorant to interpret analysis isn't disinformation.
Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by bavell on Tuesday February 08, 2022 @09:38PM (#30268016)
I wish everyone thought this way :/
Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by double_nan on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @12:27AM (#30269208)
So it's ok to mislead people so long as you are not lying directly?
Re:You cannot police misinformation in a fair, reproducible,... by michaelmrose on Wednesday February 09, 2022 @02:47AM (#30270060)
It's ok to pass on accurate information that requires the public to put in the work to accurately understand it.

It is probably impossible to have the complex dialogue sufficient to inform people both intelligent and willing to put in the work in a way that is not apt to either be misunderstood accidentally or more frequently on purpose.