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Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by egfx on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @09:04PM (#30187487)
Yep I guess the pull to be a walled garden is too great. Even Twitter, a product that should have been the true antithesis to walled garden pigeon holed themselves into walled garden state. I wrote a blog post about it a long time ago https://medium.com/@shareU/we-built-this-city-2cb97437942f
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by totony on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @09:52PM (#30187917)
>walled garden

>links medium blog post which can only be accessed behind a login

Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by quaintdev on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:17PM (#30188106)
Free products sooner or later end up becoming walled gardens unless it is open source and self hosted.
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by ilikeatari on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @11:27PM (#30188672)
How about paid businesses models? Aren’t we ripe to start these now?
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by pjerem on Thursday February 03, 2022 @01:11AM (#30189261)
By definition, paid products are walled gardens from the beginning.
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by gibspaulding on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:44PM (#30188317)
I'm not a huge fan of medium either, but I was able to scroll through the whole article without logging in. There's a prompt at the top, but nothing too obtrusive. I even tried with ublock origin off. What am I missing?
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by eyelidlessness on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:47PM (#30188349)
Medium is extremely inconsistent with their account-/pay-walling. I think it’s intentionally chaotic and confusing to drive signup/subscription rates that wouldn’t happen if they communicated clearly what limits you’ve actually encountered.
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by Underphil on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:16PM (#30188093)
It didn't ask me for a login (?)
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by Utkarsh_Mood on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:21PM (#30188136)
depends on whether you've finished your free articles for the month
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by jen20 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:29PM (#30188204)
And whether you have an ad/tracker blocker.
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by Underphil on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:03AM (#30188918)
Ah, I sit corrected. I have the blockers and don't think I've ever used Medium before.
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by scarface74 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:24PM (#30188152)
I wrote a blog post on Medium about wall gardens…
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by egfx on Thursday February 03, 2022 @12:54AM (#30189179)
To be fair (to myself and my feelings about walled gardens) I updated the post in 2018 but first I wrote it in 2012 when Medium was this cool new anti-wordpress blogging platform and it proves my point exactly.
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by dylan604 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:39PM (#30188283)
shoot, i just replied with the same sentiment. then i saw your message.
Re:Facebook loses users for the first time by dylan604 on Wednesday February 02, 2022 @10:38PM (#30188278)
something strikes as peculiar/funny about discussions of walled gardens, but then blogging about it on medium.