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Re:Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter by vanusa on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @04:14PM (#30169384)
I'm not talking about how all companies operate all of the time, I'm talking about how some companies operate an unfortunate number of times.

In between these opposite extremes -- your language clearly indicates that you think this level of what we might call "aggravated bias" (hiring not just someone in your network; but hiring them over a more qualified candidate, presumed to exist and be interested in your opportunity) is commonplace, or something close to it.

Such that in your mind, "including referrals in your hiring funnel" == aggravated bias (in the sense above), basically.

As to the bias stats you liked to: the findings interesting, to say the least -- if they can be validated. Unfortunately the link to the original Payscale "study" seems to be broken (if we can call it that -- since remember, this is the work of a private company, with products to push).

Re:Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter by TameAntelope on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @04:18PM (#30169445)
> Such that in your mind, "including referrals in your hiring funnel" == aggravated bias (in the sense above), basically.

Can you show where I said anything approaching this? I do not believe this, nor do I believe I said or even suggested this to be the case.

Re:Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter by vanusa on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @04:21PM (#30169486)
I'm asserting the practice among those in power of favoring relatives, friends, or even friends of friends over other, more qualified candidates is a contributing factor to that diversity problem.
Re:Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter by TameAntelope on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @04:29PM (#30169595)
Not sure where in that statement I referenced hiring funnels.
Re:Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter by CRConrad on Thursday February 10, 2022 @03:41PM (#30292173)
"Referenced", in the sense of even bringing it up in a discussion all about hiring funnels, perhaps?
Re:Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter by vanusa on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @04:39PM (#30169776)
I'd continue, but you're getting awful slippery.
Re:Career advice nobody gave me: Never ignore a recruiter by TameAntelope on Tuesday February 01, 2022 @04:58PM (#30170047)
You made an assumption that turned out not to be true. That's okay, it happens!