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Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by KennyBlanken on Sunday January 30, 2022 @05:27PM (#30141879)
> I'm sure the decision was "data driven" based on real life usage.

You're assuming Tesla's end goal is to make the car more usable, and not to maximize revenue.

Their goal is to be transportation smart TV. Sell apps, media, advertising, etc. That's why so much money is being poured into self-driving cars. Americans in particular spend a massive amount of time staring at pavement, and that represents a huge untapped market.

Self-driving cars aren't about the betterment of humanity; the deaths and injuries are certainly horrific in scale, but self-driving cars don't solve the primary problem: our heavy use of low occupancy vehicle trips is not sustainable environmentally, energy-wise, land-use wise (roads or parking), logistically, economically (6+ year car loans, crumbling infrastructure because we can't afford to keep it all in good repair, etc)

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by userbinator on Sunday January 30, 2022 @08:50PM (#30143530)
Self-driving cars are really about bringing the movement of the population under government control.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by copo233 on Sunday January 30, 2022 @10:34PM (#30144157)
Even assuming that you are correct in your absolutely ridiculous assumption that self-driving cars are about controlling the movement of the population, why would you think it would be government control and not control of the company that is trying to develop the self-driving technology?
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by userbinator on Sunday January 30, 2022 @10:58PM (#30144294)
All the articles posted regularly on HN about governments requesting data on users from companies --- and the latter obediently doing so --- aren't enough evidence?
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by sdf4j on Monday January 31, 2022 @12:01AM (#30144681)
Put aside your usual paranoid police-state governments, and you'll find companies have much more incentives to exploit user data.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by notriddle on Sunday January 30, 2022 @11:19PM (#30144436)
Why? The government already controls city layout. If they don’t want you to go somewhere, just don’t build a road there at all. If they don’t want you going there sometimes, use tire spikes.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by userbinator on Monday January 31, 2022 @09:33AM (#30148281)
It doesn't have to be an outright prohibition. The power of a gentle "recommendation" is enough.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by notriddle on Monday January 31, 2022 @10:44AM (#30149210)
City layout can gently recommend things just as easily as it can force something. Allowing roads to fall into disrepair, not mentioning stuff on maps, putting stuff you want people to see nearby stuff that people have to go to.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by jeffreygoesto on Monday January 31, 2022 @03:05AM (#30145661)
I think it's more that big co want us to lease everything so they can dictate the prize. You can't afford a house, you have to pay even for the transport to your non-self-controlled work... All you have is your ass.
Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by dannyw on Sunday January 30, 2022 @10:30PM (#30144131)
Precisely. Unvaccinated? Your car won't allow you to drive to a restaurant.

(If you think this sounds like an exaggeration, just look at how technology is currently being used for government control around the world, and consider how self driving cars will be different).

Re:A UX designer walks into a Tesla Bar by sdf4j on Monday January 31, 2022 @12:07AM (#30144728)
I'm more concerned with cars taking certain route to pass by a restaurant that is paying for advertisement. But I can understand how the whole covid narrative gave some pople an excuse to feel opressed.