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Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by laputan_machine on Monday January 17, 2022 @11:05AM (#29967941)
“Everybody in England was brought up believing in brown Windsor soup,” says Glyn Hughes, author of The Lost Foods of England. “What is really, really strange is how deep this is into the British psyche. Walk up to anyone in the street and ask them about brown Windsor soup, and they’ll say that it was terrible and horrible but everybody ate it in the Victorian era.”

I have never heard of Brown Windsor soup until today. An article that's debunking a myth itself contains a myth.

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by 692 on Monday January 17, 2022 @11:33AM (#29968293)
I suspect from the fact it was mentioned in the program "Hancock's Half Hour" in the fifties. you probably have to be 70/80+ to know about this.

it's totally new to me

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by SideburnsOfDoom on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:26PM (#29969836)
> you probably have to be 70/80+ to know about this

Not necessarily. "Hancock's Half Hour" and "Goon show" episodes were sold on vinyl records at the time (and are still to be found on the big internet retailer on Vinyl, CD and MP3).

If the media were in the house, years later, kids would play them for amusement.

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by interstice on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:39PM (#29970069)
I grew up listening to the goon show (parents were fans) and also do not know about brown Windsor soup.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by simonblack on Monday January 17, 2022 @06:28PM (#29972904)
Was that the "original, lantern-slide type, wireless Goon Show", or some other?

:)

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by interstice on Wednesday January 19, 2022 @08:28PM (#30003071)
Definitely that one. Would you like a gorilla?
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by 692 on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:41PM (#29970091)
absolutely, I'm also guessing not many people did listen to these new format versions of these shows either.

the only time I've ever heard the Goon show or Hancock's Half Hour, has always been whilst listening to the radio (typically 2 or 4) that makes a reference to the shows and plays a few seconds clip

Within my limited field of family and friends I would say that people have heard about them, but have not really listened to them

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by Symbiote on Monday January 17, 2022 @02:36PM (#29970808)
An older relative (must be in his 80s now) had Hancock's Half Hour on cassette tape, and I listened to them while visiting.

The funniest one I remember is "The Blood Doner", which turns out was a TV episode (most were just radio).

"The Radio Ham" is also good.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Blood_Donor / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEUvyaNu0uw

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Radio_Ham

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by DonaldFisk on Monday January 17, 2022 @04:13PM (#29971745)
I'm Scottish, in my sixties, and can remember seeing brown Windsor soup on menus, almost certainly while on holiday in England with my family when I was young, so 1960s or early 1970s. I can't remember if I ever tried it though. I'm in my sixties.

A web search turns up this pre-decimalization advertisement: https://englandspuzzle.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/Batche... . Just plain "Windsor soup", but dark (dare I say brown?), and so clearly not the Francatelli recipe mentioned in the article. It's also on a 1926 menu in the Hartlepool Northern Daily Mail, shown here: http://www.foodsofengland.co.uk/brownwindsorsoup.htm . Binns was a department store in Sunderland, England.

So it definitely existed, but appears to have fallen out of fashion decades ago.

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by dcminter on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:07PM (#29968722)
Another Brit who's no familiarity with it. I have listened to a few of the Goon show episodes but it didn't ring a bell. I don't think my parents were fans, so perhaps I'd have heard it referenced if they were.

On the other hand, I rescued my late mother's recipe books when we cleared their house and I can offer up a recipe for "Brown Stew" if anyone's interested. Still not "Windsor" though.

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by cannam on Monday January 17, 2022 @04:01PM (#29971651)
> I can offer up a recipe for "Brown Stew" if anyone's interested

Is that the Good Housekeeping recipe book by any chance? That has a number of brown things, including stew.

"SAVOURY SAUCES

"Vast as the number of individual savoury sauces may be, most of them can be divided into White (simple or rich), Brown and Egg sauces, plus a group of Miscellaneous ones such as Mint Sauce."

Though it is actually a pretty good cookery book in many ways.

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by dcminter on Monday January 17, 2022 @05:26PM (#29972379)
Maybe. It's handwritten, but may well have been transcribed for convenience. She certainly had GH (as did I in a much later edition) I'll see if I can fish it out in the morning.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by lordnacho on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:20PM (#29968899)
I concur, lived here for a long time and I've noticed stuff like Spotted Dick, Toad-in-the-hole, Haggis, and Faggots (which are a kind of meatball).

If I were to point at a dish that was probably more popular in the past it would be fried eel, which you can still find in certain places in London.

BWS, never heard of it, family is British and they've not heard of it either.

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by andybak on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:33PM (#29969982)
Weren't eels usually boiled or steamed?
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by lordnacho on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:44PM (#29970145)
I messed up, I meant Jellied Eels.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by philk10 on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:46PM (#29970157)
yeh, which is how you get the liquor they are served with at the Pie, mash and eel shops
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by jimmytidey on Monday January 17, 2022 @02:42PM (#29970866)
Fried eels would be too palatable
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by HeyLaughingBoy on Monday January 17, 2022 @05:11PM (#29972256)
I'd say that copious amounts of hard liquor would be the only way to get me to consume any boiled or steamed fish :-)
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by jgrahamc on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:22PM (#29968926)
I'll just add my voice to the growing list of "British people who has never heard of brown windsor soup".
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by lokar on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:32PM (#29969954)
It made an appearance in the 2021 series around the world in 80 days

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Around_the_World_in_80_Days_...

Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by speedbird on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:20PM (#29969724)
Same. Nearly 60. Familiar with plenty of less than appealing “traditional” Brit food but never heard of this.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by kaashif on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:10PM (#29968752)
One of the Top Hacker News Posts Is a Hilarious Lie
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by Latty on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:36PM (#29969085)
Yeah, can confirm as another Brit this is definitely not true—as of the present day at least. Never heard of this.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by MattPalmer1086 on Monday January 17, 2022 @11:23AM (#29968167)
Never heard of it either.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by IshKebab on Monday January 17, 2022 @11:58AM (#29968597)
Me neither, nor my girlfriend. Seems like they are vastly exaggerating the number of people that have heard of this!
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by agd on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:13PM (#29968786)
UK native and have never heard of 'brown Windsor soup'.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by have_faith on Monday January 17, 2022 @12:41PM (#29969133)
Ditto, never heard of it.
Re:One of the most famous Victorian dishes is a hilarious lie by meheleventyone on Monday January 17, 2022 @01:06PM (#29969477)
Yup, never heard of it.